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Bang on. He's already turned the chance of football at Leeds. He'd rather make more money not playing than drop down a division and actually earn his money. Greedy prick.

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Seen loads of Liverpool supporters questioning him already. A couple of bad results and he'll definitely feel the pressure. They don't count.

We're the same with Keegan though, so we can't really have a go at them for it. By we, I mean me and cp40. Aye, but for every you and cp40, there were people on the other side of the fence to even things out, and then you had me in somewhere in the middle. With the scouse, the likes of you and cp40 would seem conservative and balanced. I've met Swedish Liverpool supporters who says things like they don't mind losing a game, because King Kenny is there. I find that sickening, and it's not made any better by the fact that I think he's no more than a decent manager with a red ugly face and that he's a whinging little t***. A no more than decent manager who has won trophies, not many of them around are there? I should have added "these days". The mans a winner, simple as. We'll see how many the goon wins this time, My money is on zip and i'll be happy to be proved wrong. Norwich at home for fooks sake 29 shots on goal, 15 on target. Our finishing was woeful, but while we are creating so many chances they'll soon start going in. It was a disappointing game considering the amount of possession we had. Won't win you the league though. This argument is going nowhere and to be fair again the tide you are saying some decent stuff here. What really interests me is the board and fns tolerance at L'pool. Would you settle for 5th this year - it looks pretty likely..... With the decline of quality under the previous owners, we were only playing catch up in the last two windows, probably the next one too. No we won't win the league this season, never expected us to. I did, and do,expect top 4 though. I think ALL fans are tolerant when they believe they've been given the right man for the job. Hodgson is the first manager in my life time who wasn't appointed because he was the best man for the job. That's not to say that they've all worked out, they haven't, but at the time of appointment they've been the best for our club. Even Souness. He was doing so well in Scotland he was the obvious choice to take over from Kenny, it didn't work out, but he was the right appointment at the time. Kenny Dalglish is the right man now and he'll be given a chance by the fans for a long while yet. And if you don't get your top 4 expectations sated? We'll be there again next season then. In the last 50 years we haven't finished lower than 8th, I think we'll be top 4 this season. I think they'll turn on him. In a way i hope you're right but the modern football fan (even of the scouse ilk) is a fickle beast I agree with you but there's still a very large hardcore who will stick with the manager when they can see what he's trying to do. We have as many bellends as every team and they knee jerk after every match that's not won, but they aren't the fans that matter are they? As with Rafa Benitez, the fans actually in the ground will support the manager until such time as he appears to have taken them as far as he can. No fans I spoke to at the match wanted to see Rafa go, we all knew how he was being starved of money. He did a fantastic job under dire circumstances in most fans opinions. Kenny Dalglish will be given even more tolerance by the fans who count. Wow. Which fans count and which ones don't? The ones in the ground singing his name are the ones who'll be heard, so that counts for a lot. The ones who don't count? The dickhead ones who phone talkshite and make points that have no base in reality. Don't even know what to say to that. It's almost like you're suggesting the only fans who are worthy of commenting sensibly on the situation are the fans who go to games. All other fans are not worthy of an opinion. But that would be f***ing barmy so you can't be saying that... No, I said the fans in the ground can show their support, and do, by chanting/singing his name. They take banners to show their support, so if there was a groundswell of opinion against a manager it would show there mostly. As this didn't happen for Benitez, and hasn't happened for Dalglish, you can assume that LFC fans supported Benitez and do support Dalglish. It was in the ground that Hodgson lost his job because the fans were singing 'Hodgson fo England' and shouting for Dalglish. Dickheads who call radio phone ins are usually, in my estimation, unaware of the reality of situations on and off the pitch. The talk inside the ground and listening to phone ins are very often, totally different. Would you say that the fans inside the ground, showing their support/anger for managers are more important than those who don't attend? The fans inside the ground make/break managers? Is that what you're getting at? I would say fans in the ground have more influence, nothing to do with importance. Yes, fans inside the ground can make or break a manger, look at your own Allardyce. I wasn't getting at anything, I said that the fans who count won't turn against Kenny, the ones who can be heard if you like. Fair play.

We're the same with Keegan though, so we can't really have a go at them for it. By we, I mean me and cp40. Aye, but for every you and cp40, there were people on the other side of the fence to even things out, and then you had me in somewhere in the middle. With the scouse, the likes of you and cp40 would seem conservative and balanced. I've met Swedish Liverpool supporters who says things like they don't mind losing a game, because King Kenny is there. I find that sickening, and it's not made any better by the fact that I think he's no more than a decent manager with a red ugly face and that he's a whinging little t***. A no more than decent manager who has won trophies, not many of them around are there? I should have added "these days". The mans a winner, simple as. We'll see how many the goon wins this time, My money is on zip and i'll be happy to be proved wrong. Norwich at home for fooks sake 29 shots on goal, 15 on target. Our finishing was woeful, but while we are creating so many chances they'll soon start going in. It was a disappointing game considering the amount of possession we had. Won't win you the league though. This argument is going nowhere and to be fair again the tide you are saying some decent stuff here. What really interests me is the board and fns tolerance at L'pool. Would you settle for 5th this year - it looks pretty likely..... With the decline of quality under the previous owners, we were only playing catch up in the last two windows, probably the next one too. No we won't win the league this season, never expected us to. I did, and do,expect top 4 though. I think ALL fans are tolerant when they believe they've been given the right man for the job. Hodgson is the first manager in my life time who wasn't appointed because he was the best man for the job. That's not to say that they've all worked out, they haven't, but at the time of appointment they've been the best for our club. Even Souness. He was doing so well in Scotland he was the obvious choice to take over from Kenny, it didn't work out, but he was the right appointment at the time. Kenny Dalglish is the right man now and he'll be given a chance by the fans for a long while yet. And if you don't get your top 4 expectations sated? We'll be there again next season then. In the last 50 years we haven't finished lower than 8th, I think we'll be top 4 this season. I think they'll turn on him. In a way i hope you're right but the modern football fan (even of the scouse ilk) is a fickle beast I agree with you but there's still a very large hardcore who will stick with the manager when they can see what he's trying to do. We have as many bellends as every team and they knee jerk after every match that's not won, but they aren't the fans that matter are they? As with Rafa Benitez, the fans actually in the ground will support the manager until such time as he appears to have taken them as far as he can. No fans I spoke to at the match wanted to see Rafa go, we all knew how he was being starved of money. He did a fantastic job under dire circumstances in most fans opinions. Kenny Dalglish will be given even more tolerance by the fans who count. Wow. Which fans count and which ones don't? The ones in the ground singing his name are the ones who'll be heard, so that counts for a lot. The ones who don't count? The dickhead ones who phone talkshite and make points that have no base in reality. Don't even know what to say to that. It's almost like you're suggesting the only fans who are worthy of commenting sensibly on the situation are the fans who go to games. All other fans are not worthy of an opinion. But that would be f***ing barmy so you can't be saying that... No, I said the fans in the ground can show their support, and do, by chanting/singing his name. They take banners to show their support, so if there was a groundswell of opinion against a manager it would show there mostly. As this didn't happen for Benitez, and hasn't happened for Dalglish, you can assume that LFC fans supported Benitez and do support Dalglish. It was in the ground that Hodgson lost his job because the fans were singing 'Hodgson fo England' and shouting for Dalglish. Dickheads who call radio phone ins are usually, in my estimation, unaware of the reality of situations on and off the pitch. The talk inside the ground and listening to phone ins are very often, totally different. Would you say that the fans inside the ground, showing their support/anger for managers are more important than those who don't attend? The fans inside the ground make/break managers? Is that what you're getting at?

We're the same with Keegan though, so we can't really have a go at them for it. By we, I mean me and cp40. Aye, but for every you and cp40, there were people on the other side of the fence to even things out, and then you had me in somewhere in the middle. With the scouse, the likes of you and cp40 would seem conservative and balanced. I've met Swedish Liverpool supporters who says things like they don't mind losing a game, because King Kenny is there. I find that sickening, and it's not made any better by the fact that I think he's no more than a decent manager with a red ugly face and that he's a whinging little t***. A no more than decent manager who has won trophies, not many of them around are there? I should have added "these days". The mans a winner, simple as. We'll see how many the goon wins this time, My money is on zip and i'll be happy to be proved wrong. Norwich at home for fooks sake 29 shots on goal, 15 on target. Our finishing was woeful, but while we are creating so many chances they'll soon start going in. It was a disappointing game considering the amount of possession we had. Won't win you the league though. This argument is going nowhere and to be fair again the tide you are saying some decent stuff here. What really interests me is the board and fns tolerance at L'pool. Would you settle for 5th this year - it looks pretty likely..... With the decline of quality under the previous owners, we were only playing catch up in the last two windows, probably the next one too. No we won't win the league this season, never expected us to. I did, and do,expect top 4 though. I think ALL fans are tolerant when they believe they've been given the right man for the job. Hodgson is the first manager in my life time who wasn't appointed because he was the best man for the job. That's not to say that they've all worked out, they haven't, but at the time of appointment they've been the best for our club. Even Souness. He was doing so well in Scotland he was the obvious choice to take over from Kenny, it didn't work out, but he was the right appointment at the time. Kenny Dalglish is the right man now and he'll be given a chance by the fans for a long while yet. And if you don't get your top 4 expectations sated? We'll be there again next season then. In the last 50 years we haven't finished lower than 8th, I think we'll be top 4 this season. I think they'll turn on him. In a way i hope you're right but the modern football fan (even of the scouse ilk) is a fickle beast I agree with you but there's still a very large hardcore who will stick with the manager when they can see what he's trying to do. We have as many bellends as every team and they knee jerk after every match that's not won, but they aren't the fans that matter are they? As with Rafa Benitez, the fans actually in the ground will support the manager until such time as he appears to have taken them as far as he can. No fans I spoke to at the match wanted to see Rafa go, we all knew how he was being starved of money. He did a fantastic job under dire circumstances in most fans opinions. Kenny Dalglish will be given even more tolerance by the fans who count. Wow. Which fans count and which ones don't? The ones in the ground singing his name are the ones who'll be heard, so that counts for a lot. The ones who don't count? The dickhead ones who phone talkshite and make points that have no base in reality. Don't even know what to say to that. It's almost like you're suggesting the only fans who are worthy of commenting sensibly on the situation are the fans who go to games. All other fans are not worthy of an opinion. But that would be fucking barmy so you can't be saying that...

We're the same with Keegan though, so we can't really have a go at them for it. By we, I mean me and cp40. Aye, but for every you and cp40, there were people on the other side of the fence to even things out, and then you had me in somewhere in the middle. With the scouse, the likes of you and cp40 would seem conservative and balanced. I've met Swedish Liverpool supporters who says things like they don't mind losing a game, because King Kenny is there. I find that sickening, and it's not made any better by the fact that I think he's no more than a decent manager with a red ugly face and that he's a whinging little t***. A no more than decent manager who has won trophies, not many of them around are there? I should have added "these days". The mans a winner, simple as. We'll see how many the goon wins this time, My money is on zip and i'll be happy to be proved wrong. Norwich at home for fooks sake 29 shots on goal, 15 on target. Our finishing was woeful, but while we are creating so many chances they'll soon start going in. It was a disappointing game considering the amount of possession we had. Won't win you the league though. This argument is going nowhere and to be fair again the tide you are saying some decent stuff here. What really interests me is the board and fns tolerance at L'pool. Would you settle for 5th this year - it looks pretty likely..... With the decline of quality under the previous owners, we were only playing catch up in the last two windows, probably the next one too. No we won't win the league this season, never expected us to. I did, and do,expect top 4 though. I think ALL fans are tolerant when they believe they've been given the right man for the job. Hodgson is the first manager in my life time who wasn't appointed because he was the best man for the job. That's not to say that they've all worked out, they haven't, but at the time of appointment they've been the best for our club. Even Souness. He was doing so well in Scotland he was the obvious choice to take over from Kenny, it didn't work out, but he was the right appointment at the time. Kenny Dalglish is the right man now and he'll be given a chance by the fans for a long while yet. And if you don't get your top 4 expectations sated? We'll be there again next season then. In the last 50 years we haven't finished lower than 8th, I think we'll be top 4 this season. I think they'll turn on him. In a way i hope you're right but the modern football fan (even of the scouse ilk) is a fickle beast I agree with you but there's still a very large hardcore who will stick with the manager when they can see what he's trying to do. We have as many bellends as every team and they knee jerk after every match that's not won, but they aren't the fans that matter are they? As with Rafa Benitez, the fans actually in the ground will support the manager until such time as he appears to have taken them as far as he can. No fans I spoke to at the match wanted to see Rafa go, we all knew how he was being starved of money. He did a fantastic job under dire circumstances in most fans opinions. Kenny Dalglish will be given even more tolerance by the fans who count. Wow. Which fans count and which ones don't?

Dalglish is bullet-proof. If it turns pear shaped then he'll escape criticism and it'll be someone else's fault.

Really? Not surprised like, anyone would think the fans hounded Hodgson out. Liverpool fans don't do that. Apparently. Can you do me one of your fixture comparisons? On games this season?

Really? Not surprised like, anyone would think the fans hounded Hodgson out. Liverpool fans don't do that. Apparently.

'cunt' is censored. What's the point in censoring the third most used word (after mag and magedia) on the forum? Love how incredibly hostile they all are, as soon as a mag makes a post, there's always someone there telling him to fuck off You get used to it.

We are strong leaders. We will show his strength by not only succumbing to the wishes of the fans but we shall openly perform the inverse of what they propose. We are strong leaders.

'cunt' is censored.

Said it before on here: I'd make it a rule that the only player who could initiate a conversation with the ref is the captain. The other 10 are only to speak to the ref when they're spoken to.

Left that one alone last night. Wise decision in hindsight.

But the people waiting like that won't get one unless a mate or someone who's paid full price gets them one. Unless they change the deal for next season and offer season tickets at 30% off a month or two into the season? My point is that people will wait and see what they come up with. I'm not against the deal btw.

Slightly pissed off at the reduction but it's not a biggy. Happens all the time when buying a laptop, coat, TV - you pay full whack and see it reduced in the sales a bit later. Slightly annoying but I don't begrudge people too much for taking advantage of the bargain/saving. As TT says the problem will be in June when people wait and buy match-to-match for the first couple of months rather than commit early. Pros and cons either way.

That's what I'm thinking. I've had a right pop at Harper loads in the past but I think there could be more to this than meets the eye. Finding it hard to believe he's a worse keeper than Eliott but if he's so far out of the picture then he may as well go and get a game somewhere else. Something's not right about it all.

Whatever reason. the reason is he's shite. Surely there's a reason why we bought Charton's goalkeeper and put him on the bench rather than Harper though?

He's clearly out of the picture, for whatever reason, here so he may as well go to Brighton tbh.

Did this a while ago and have just totted up the placings on last years league ladder again for the 9 games: Us: Arsenal 4th Spurs 5th Fulham 8th Villa 9th Sunderland 10th Blackburn 15th Wigan 16th Wolves 17th QPR 21st Total placings 105 W5 D4 L0 Sunderland: Chelsea 2nd Arsenal 4th Liverpool 6th WBA 11th Newcastle 12th Stoke 13th Bolton 14th Norwich 22nd Swansea 23rd Total placings 107 W2 D3 L4 Very similar obviously but technically Sunderland have had the slightly easier fixtures. Certainly not enough to moan at and come out with shite like "they've not played anyone yet", "easy start". We've beaten the shite and grabbed points here and there.

Disagree with that tbh. Think Pardew got it spot on in his post-match interview. They were sharper and crisper in possession in the first half and had that one chance. But i think we matched them for chances in the end, and dominated the second half. You've only got to look at the possession stats to see that they were never in it. They closed the game out in the middle at times, particularly in the first, and made it difficult for us to break them down, but when they had the ball they were garbage imo. Moses and Rodallega looked their own players capable of doing anything with it. They spent the majority of the second half just punting it straight back to us. As Pardew said, it was more 'flat bitter' than it was champagne football, but we were unquestionably worthy winners imo. Fair enough. Don't recall Al Habsi making a save of note. Didn't think we created enough to justify taking 3 points but that's how it goes sometimes. We'll play much better and lose games this season.

Didn't deserve to win it tbh. Wasted so many good chances to work the keeper but Al Habsi had nothing to do all day. Moses played well and with a bit of composure could have had a goal or two himself or set one or two up. Pleased with the result obviously but there's a lot of work to be done. Pardew keeping the same XI is fair enough but if there are superior players on the bench the bench then they deserve a chance - thinking Santon, Ben Arfa and Marveaux for Simpson, Best and Obertan respectively. Horses for courses.

We're better than we were. We've got some good players who are playing well but there's still too many weak links in the squad for us to be able to rock up to any game and fancy our chances. The likes of Man U, City and Chelsea will swat us aside with ease but if we bring in 3 quality players in January and they adapt then we can have a platform to challenge the top 6. We're 7th best atm which, considering where we were 3 years ago, is phenomenal. Let's keep the quality we have and build a squad.

Went to the game on Sunday and didn't even notice the new sign on the East Stand until about half an hour into the game. Might just be me but I'm fairly apathetic towards it. Not saying I like it or it looks good because it doesn't - I just find it hard to get too worked up about it.