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Nah....................................... hold on there LLLO.........how much were those winnings ? it'll take four figures to get ths crowd off your back.

yup....i shouldn't but i see this as a very pivotal game for us.

Loven is prem quality and you know it. Hattricks arent typical of anyone, hes done well near every single game hes played upfront this season. I like Lovenkrands, but i've seen very little from him to suggest that he'd do well for us over the course of 38 games in a premier league season. Anyone who can look beyond the goals will agree with that. His first goal was a deflection, the second he was unmarked, and the third was a mis-hit. We bossed the game through posession of the ball. Shame some people don't wan to acknowledge one of the few games where we actually did that. second he was unmarked...........? isn't thast good movement/positioning etc. ? if only the others mugs we have up front could find themselves unmarked. bizzraly you've hit on a strange thing. at home this season some of the games we've dominated most have been the closest (bristol city/derby) whereas in our better wins we didn't really dominate (swansea/plymouth/reading)

it is but it shouldn't be. if we don't win or play well the jitters will really hit in.

it's not pathetic at all, it's for the most part all fans have. few teams will win anything, marginally more will start the season thinking they can win something so the comradre and loyalty of it is all there is.

i didn't go, i could say i was up at 3am and done a 10hour shift but when it comes down to it i wasn't going to pay to watch a match where all i'm bothered about is players not getting injured or suspended, stuff the score!

if it's purely for best odds sign up to them all tyhen use oddschecker. i prefer betfair myself.

Fiver on a Bristol City/Millwall double will return £40. Sticking a tenner on that myself. I spunked it on Blackjack. impossible surely ?

how much was that ? 2mill or so wasn't it ?

Are you realising how wrong you were yet? Plenty for you to boo anyway... a small bid ? how much should we pay for a player with no experience at this level let alone where we hope to be headed in the last few months of his contract ? You talking to me? otter as he mentioned the "small bid" just i was very tired and it was easier to post that then find his solo quote.

Are you realising how wrong you were yet? Plenty for you to boo anyway... a small bid ? how much should we pay for a player with no experience at this level let alone where we hope to be headed in the last few months of his contract ?

as he says he was constantly brought back early. a reccurring theme it seems from our last few seasons.

Where's he going? To tarmac someone's drive. He'll have a hard job in this weather why assume he's tarmaccing someones drive in this country ? anyway....he's went to some russian team i think.

he had some good games, ones that he was never given credit for, thats the way it is for scapegoats.

The plain and simple fact though is that he wasn't good enough when he was here. How he's doing now is irrelevant. If it was just our fans who thought he was s****, why was he on the dole for 18 months? maybe all folk could remember was his form at the end when he was injured and pissed off ?

How do you know that? Look at Peterborough and Scunthorpe. why did you miss leicester out ?

Not desperate enough to lower the price to one that will actually get the club sold though. In other words not desperate at all. Exactly. Until the club is marketed at something like a reasonable price, we'll remain in Ashley's hands. bit of this, bit of that. he'll not be desperate to sell right now because he'll be able to get more should we get promoted. others won't want to show their hands to early in case they risk buying us now to get a cheaper price but end up with a championship club should we not get promoted. it seemed he had a reasonable price that someone else agreed to but couldn't get the money together. in my view he is desperate to sell but isn't so much on his uppers that he'll take less than what he thinks he can get.

so how much have you watched of him ?. saying you've watched him for 2 years seems a bit misleading in this case .

Personally speaking, i've watched Beckford for two years at Elland Road and he often looks a woeful player in league 1, he'll last a few games at best in the premiership before everyone at SJP turns on him. you've a season ticket at elland road ?

Exactly, and even then goals might not be gurantee'd. The fact is any striker we sign is going to be a gamble. With the amount of money we've got availible you simply aren't going to get a proven goalscorer, therefore any buy will be a risk, you've just got to hope it pays off. A lot of it is pot luck I suppose. if we buy him for 2mill, get promotrd and he looks poor in the prem. does anyone think we'd get much less than 2mill if we sold him on with a couple of years left on his contract ?

being honest, no matter how poorly we've played this season if there is one thing we've managed to do it's create or have chances handed to us.

Best cancel all international sport while we're about it, after all, remember Munich 1958 etc. Let's all be scared of everything. munich 58 is a poor excuse. munich 72 is far closer.

aye. but no guarantee it'll be jan 31st 2010.

i wouldn't go above 2mill mostly based on that if it doesn't work out i think we'd still get our money back.

You could never guarantee anyone's security 100% ever, anywhere. Ok then shall I rephrase. They should not put in an enivronment that is currently the subject of a conflict, as was mentioned in the BBC article. Well, they were driving to Angola from their training camp in Congo-Brazzaville, through a conflict-ridden exclave of Angola. Whose fault was that? Say, there was a tournament in Scotland, and a team bus travelling from their training ground in the Republic of Ireland got attacked by terrorists in conflict-ridden Northern Ireland. Would that be a reason to cancel any tournament held in Europe? games are being held in that conflict ridden region i believe whos fault is that? They are? That detail escaped me. I thought they were just passing through. Angola's fault, then, I suppose. OTOH, teams had been told by the CAF to fly, not travel overland -- a stipulation that the Togo team ignored. They weren't told to fly, the CAF merely "expected" them to fly. Oh yeah? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/international/article6981351.ece http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/08/togo-football-team-ambushed-angola So they deserved to be shot at and their driver killed? Christ man, just because they chose to go by bus, doesn't mean they're to blame for what happened. The issue was about whether security measures could have prevented this happening. I'd say such measures as were supposed to be in place would have stood a better chance if they hadn't simply been ignored, wouldn't you? should the tournament be held anywhere where teams have to fly for general safety from this sort of thing ?