Wullie

Let me repeat myself. BEFORE MARTIN JOL, TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS WERE A LAUGHING STOCK. Martin Jol was no big name, had very little to lose coming from a smaller foreign club. They've started to look a proper club when they gave Jol 3 years to improve the side and Harry 4. Didn't take them to sack Ramos but ok, so it's all about how long a team give a manager? Right. Chelsea? Villa?

Spurs managers since Keegan arrived: Ossie Ardiles Gerry Francis Christian Gross George Graham Glenn Hoddle Jacques Santini Martin Jol Juande Ramos Harry Redknapp How many of them have gone onto bigger and better things? None. By your logic, TCD, the Spurs job should be touched only with a very long bargepole within football, and completely avoided by those with any merit whatsoever. Do you think that's the case?

Pitiful crack as usual.

Delusional to think that the manager of Wigan would come to Newcastle?

Absolutely typical that we've played in several semis/finals and not a single one of them was when we were any good. Closest we got was Robson's semi against Marseille and that had been a shit season despite finishing fifth (sound familiar?).

Someone on Blue Moon summed it up quite well when they said that they showed today that they are still miles away from being a big club as opposed to a club with a load of money.

Saw that earlier. Fucking disgraceful. How did Keegan's team not manage to even get as far as a semi final man?

A few reports said it's one year, a few reports said we can't afford it. People choose to believe the former for some reason, desperation probably. It's a bit contradictory to choose to believe that Ashley wants to do everything as cheap as possible but also believe that he was prepared to give 8 year deals to the manager and his entire backroom staff though. Supposedly he was very pissed off at how much it cost to get rid of Allardyce and his cronies. From that point of view, it's hard to believe that he was so eager to hand out 8 year deals with full compensation. I can't imagine Pardew exactly driving a hard bargain either.

I said it the other month, part of my job involves going into regular meetings with clients and I often end up getting a kicking because of what someone else has done wrong but that's another story - if my manager tells me I'll get a kicking then I invariably will but if she says it'll be good/alright, just make sure I prepare and am in the right frame of mind then it's far more likely to go well. It's the old cliche of making players feel 10 foot tall, it's so logical that only an idiot wouldn't get it. Imagine if a mate or relative was going into an interview or exam and telling them "you're too inexperienced, you can't compete with people who've been to better schools, I don't have any confidence in you doing well" - people would think you were a proper cunt. It's the most basic of human behaviours and Pardew hasn't even mastered that, never mind Premier League tactics.

Typically I'd agree. Can't wait this year.

He turned Liverpool down, I don't see why he'd come here. I doubt he's going to stick around there if they go down though.

Yeah but Villa would therefore have lost (as they're playing Wigan) so would still be on 40 and go down. We should try and fit this in the thread title.

SSN or BBC live text: Just post the fucking team will you please? Every time I want to know a team, I've got to go and find out what the frigging team was last week first (or wait half an hour for them to post the actual line-up).

It's all about that word for Pardew - "magic". That's how he thinks games should be won, rather than putting attacking pressure on as a team, as a unit. In his head is the classic straw man. He thinks you can either win by keeping it tight and having a moment of that magic, or you can throw the kitchen sink forward and hope not to get caught. There's no middle ground of playing positive football and yet also defending sensibly from the front like most other teams at least attempt. It brings to mind when we played Spurs last season and he said we would "let our hair down" and we were 4-0 down at half time. He hasn't the first clue how to play football like a normal balanced team. He's frighteningly limited.

For bloody f***s sake, is he actually making excuses before we play the worst team in the league, instead of worrying about them he should be coming out and saying how much we want and need this and that we're gonna give it all we've got. Not these f***ing weasel like comments from this negative t***, sick to death of this s*** now. Guarantee every other manager has said the same bollocks about QPR. It's general manager tripe to go on about not underestimating the worst team in the league. Daft to be getting annoyed at it. Not just QPR though is it? It's every week, then every week a draw is a magnificent result, and every week he sets the team up to try and nullify whatever they've got to offer. It's not to be taken in isolation. It's a constant grinding down of hopes and expectations. It gets me down listening to him say how fantastic the opposition are, the players must think "are you on smack, you f***ing dullard, you've got Hatem Ben Arfa in your squad and we're sitting listening to you tell us how hard he should be working to stop Reading's wide players?" I agree and I'm not sticking up for him, just saying it's the usual 'respect the other team, don't underestimate them' bullshit that managers come out with (granted Pardew comes out with it more so than others). The problem is that Pardew appears to use it as his teamtalk rather than just media soundbites.

For bloody f***s sake, is he actually making excuses before we play the worst team in the league, instead of worrying about them he should be coming out and saying how much we want and need this and that we're gonna give it all we've got. Not these f***ing weasel like comments from this negative t***, sick to death of this s*** now. Guarantee every other manager has said the same bollocks about QPR. It's general manager tripe to go on about not underestimating the worst team in the league. Daft to be getting annoyed at it. Not just QPR though is it? It's every week, then every week a draw is a magnificent result, and every week he sets the team up to try and nullify whatever they've got to offer. It's not to be taken in isolation. It's a constant grinding down of hopes and expectations. It gets me down listening to him say how fantastic the opposition are, the players must think "are you on smack, you fucking dullard, you've got Hatem Ben Arfa in your squad and we're sitting listening to you tell us how hard he should be working to stop Reading's wide players?"

It's basic psychology man. How many times have people said that Kevin Keegan wasn't great tactically (arguable) but more than made up for it anyway by making the players feel like they could beat absolutely anybody? Any Newcastle fan who wants this cunt in charge of NUFC is mentally deficient. I cannot take any more of this pathetic defeatism.

If we beat QPR we're safe man.

Not to mention the embarrassingly easy day we gave City a few weeks ago, coming out like frightened children in awe of the bigger boys.

Every single year we treat the FA Cup with utter disdain, and every single year there's daft cunts on here saying they agree with it because we'd never win it anyway. Wigan Athletic ffs. If we fail to win tomorrow, they'll send us down.

God I feel utterly fucking sick.

Wigan having three or four injuries doesn't seem to have stopped them trying to pass the ball or score a goal. Weird.

I thought the way to play against City was to bend over and grip your ankles firmly.

Tbh I'm not that fussed but would probably prefer Man City winning. Just totally fucks me off when these nothing clubs win cups while we treat them as an inconvenience. That's our disgrace, not theirs. Oh I agree, but every time a tiny club wins a cup it makes me more pissed off at that situation. The more times it happens the more angry I get at each lame cup exit.

Haven't got any youngsters have they? Don't think they've played with fear at any point either. They're just a load of shit mercenaries. I know where you're coming from in being nervous, I am too but if we fuck it up, it'll be down to us and very little to do with them. FWIW I think if we score early, he'll do exactly as you describe.