Wullie

We've got to win like, especially if Chelsea beat Villa. I'm sick to death of worrying about it all the time. I want it done and dusted before Wigan get anywhere near the Emirates.

I agree.

Absolutely. The idea of keeping him to see how we do in the first two or three months is completely batshit mental. That's exactly what Shepherd used to do and why we kept writing off season after season.

Strange they moved for Moyes so quickly, no one can say he's a bad manager but fact is all he's done is kept Everton normally upper midtable with occasional forrays into Europe or early on flirting with relegation. The consistency in finishes is not bad but Everton never had a consistently good full season usually starting awfully only to engineer a siege mentality and get some momentum post jan transfer window. If that happens at Man Utd next season the players won't get behind him like the Everton ones did but be wondering who this joker thinks he is and he'll be sacked. Yep. I've read a few times in the last 24 hours about how "he has had Everton consistently punching above their financial weight", a statement which I find rather odd to say the least. I'd say he has had them consistently exactly where they should be. That's not to say he has done a shit job or an "average" job, he's done a very good job because it's not at all easy to maintain equilibrium in the Premier League - I've said many times that Newcastle should be aiming for an absolute bare minimum of around about 7th, which is what Moyes has developed at Everton. But developing a big club like Everton to consistently finish above us, Fulham, Stoke, sunderland, West Brom, Villa and the other stalwarts of the Premier League is a far cry from winning stuff, competing with giants of the game (financially and otherwise) and carrying on such an incredible legacy. It's also not punching above their financial weight - ok, so somebody will be able to show that they generally spend less than Stoke and the mackems, for example, but the sums aren't significant enough to make that claim, I would want more qualifications than that before I employed someone as manager of Manchester United. One thing he'll have to vastly improve (and Neil touched on this) is what he does when the chips are down, in big games. Far too often while he's been there, Everton have looked very close to something, either the FA Cup or qualifying for the CL, and always fallen short, either because their form has dropped off alarmingly or because they've simply bottled it on the day by not playing their natural game. His early reputation was as quite a negative manager and while he has generally got over this in your bog standard league games, it still comes to the fore in big games when he tries to be too cautious. That won't wash at Man Utd. It's more of a damning indictment of the managers currently working in Britain that Moyes is so highly rated (as "one of the best managers in the country" rather than "a good top flight manager, 8/10") than it is a reflection of his ability imo.

Who the fuck wants to listen to that little drip?

I'm fairly sure Cabaye wasn't regular Lille captain.

I honestly couldn't give you a name, it's as close to being an impossible job as you can get. Only Mourinho could step in and carry the results on, but I understand why they haven't done that. They're 8/1 not to finish in the top four next season and that tempts me. Careful, with that squad only a selling of Rooney and a injury to RvP will get them outside of the top 4, and even then I expect them to be challenging for the title. The players they have are only getting better which is scary. Welbeck, Nani, Valencia, Kagawa, Young can all play as offensive midfielders/wingers. It's quite a good depth considering they have RvP/Chicharito/Welbeck who can play up top. They'll be absolutely nowhere near the title imo, miles off. If Mourinho does go to Chelsea, it'll be like taking candy off a baby for him.

I honestly couldn't give you a name, it's as close to being an impossible job as you can get. Only Mourinho could step in and carry the results on, but I understand why they haven't done that. They're 8/1 not to finish in the top four next season and that tempts me.

It would be more surprising to me if there wasn't a drop in results. And a huge proportion of Man United fans have never known anything else but good ones, couple of defeats and there'll be plenty swinging from the rooftops demanding his head. There was a ST holder on 606 last week who said that he was so disgusted with Fergie playing a weakened side against Chelsea that he wasn't going to renew his ticket. Don't underestimate how overprivileged this lot are and how badly they'll react to suddenly, after twenty years, no longer having things all their own way. I simply don't think Moyes is good enough or strong enough to carry this burden. Yes, he's a good manager and I'd love to have had him at Newcastle but he's not amazing, he's made a lot of mistakes in his time at Everton and we're talking about following the greatest manager of all time here, and into a squad which isn't anywhere near as good as the league position/points suggest. I've talked loads on here about the extra percentage that Fergie gets out of players that other top four clubs wouldn't dream of buying off them and we're about to see the consequences of losing that.

I'm obviously in a minority, I think it's going to be a complete disaster. If it wasn't for us being so fucking rotten, I'd really be looking forward to next season.

They're entitled to their opinion as much as I'm entitled to think that they're unbelievably stupid. Ironic comments Inochi given the amount of arrogance shown by you this season when being critical of those who could see the manager's true colours. You still persist with it too, in the face of overwhelming evidence.

What the fuck have the Glazers got to do with Ron Atkinson? Comparing the current Man United to the one that existed pre Ferguson is like comparing Virgin to Richard Branson's first record shop in the Sixties.

My mate's just been in a taxi for 45 minutes with a driver fully behind Pardew citing stability. I'd have had to get out and walk.

I'll be fucking foaming if Everton get Laudrup or even Martinez and we end up still stuck with this dickhead.

He better fucking go, God I detest his attitude to the game. Can't take any more of this negative dross.

I don't think anyone would claim that but to take over that footballing dynasty, I simply don't think he's up to it, not even close. Honestly think that if he does take over (and I still can't quite believe it might be true), he won't last the season.

I just can't believe it. Moyes.

Moyes. Man I can't wait to see the dynasty collapse. It's going to be worth the wait.

Can't wait to see what happens now. I predict a collapse. If it's Moyes, they won't finish in the top four next season

God fucking strewth. Taken about five years off my life expectancy tonight. Fucking love Swansea City.

Webb might as well have held a fucking calendar up there ffs.

FFS.

Looking good to fuck us over again this weekend as well. Just more proof that every team doesn't 'play the same team twice' - these fuckers played like thier lives depended on it when they've played us. They've rolled over and taken it up the arse over the past few days. Cunts. They didn't like. Swansea and West Brom were both appalling against us. But we didn't fancy trying to win, so we didn't.

Now that we're in the relegation zone, will he try and win an away game for this first time this season?

Has Alan Pardew volunteered to do the Stoke and Swansea team talks for this week? For fuck's sake!