BottledDog

That. Is. Just. Genius.

Your post pretty much mirrors my feelings over his sale to the letter.

Give over, the only reason Adam is still at the club is because of a fuckup getting the paperwork signed. There was no valiant fight to reject Tottenhams offer. I gather from that, you disagree? Take it up with Redknapp: “we missed out by minutes... ...the chairman couldn't get hold of two shareholders who had to sign the forms as well. It's just one of those things." I think it's naive to suggest that Blackpool didn't put up a fight to keep him. Holloway, Jan 20th: "Charlie has signed a contract and someone can come in all they like, but it's not his choice and it's not their choice. He belongs to us and he is contracted for 18 months. "You have to behave with respect and not all players do that sometimes, but that is the way the game is. "I think he is still improving, I think he belongs to us and if someone wants to offer money, I think they are wasting their time because we don't need to sell him at the moment." A nice facepalm and now nieve? Cheers, but unsurprisingly I disagree with you again. Using Blackpool as an example of showing ambition as opposed to us over Carroll is a little hard to stomach, and that is why I picked up on it. The quote you picked is one of his milder ones. Holloway was mouthing off left right and centre giving both barrels to Adam's agent on more than one occasion and to Adam himself. But so what? It wasn't his decision in the end. There was really very little difference between Holloway and Pardew in that respect, or Blackpool and Newcastle. We equally dug in our heals in until a ridiculous offer came in; Blackpool simply got one too late in the day and were just not able to get their act together to finish off the paper work.

A serious buyer would have a estimate of the total price, and no problem entering talks for 250K. For all other media seeking attention whores, its not worth it. Pretty good move imo

Give over, the only reason Adam is still at the club is because of a fuckup getting the paperwork signed. There was no valiant fight to reject Tottenhams offer. I gather from that, you disagree? Take it up with Redknapp: “we missed out by minutes... ...the chairman couldn't get hold of two shareholders who had to sign the forms as well. It's just one of those things."

Give over, the only reason Adam is still at the club is because of a fuckup getting the paperwork signed. There was no valiant fight to reject Tottenhams offer.

Yup, quality always conquers and given a run of games like Besty, he'll be banging them in like nobody's business. Delighted he's signed a new contract. Check my Avatar to grasp how his appetite for a bulging onion net is, quite simply, insatiable!

Yup, relaxed, sensible, and pretty open.

Nobodys getting on a high horse, just a discussion. Can you see any long term benefits in employing this approach? ashley moves on? Or gives him more of a reason to stay. Some really great discussion in this thread lads, what a read. Of course he'll stay if he can continually turn investments of £0m to £5m into £8m to £10m profit he'll just produce a conveyor belt of players sold for profit. Trouble is that NUFC ssupporters will be paying £500+ every season to watch nothing more than a talent drain. We'll have no real opportunity to break the top 8 because it'll be those Clubs that are asset stripping our team. My concerns exactly. Call it pessimism, but in my opinion it's the reality we now face. If we turn players who cost nothing into £8m to £10m profit continually, the club will be making some unbelievably impressive buys, be employing a mightily impressive coaching staff, and providing a great enviroment on the pich to allow talent to shine, while being successful enough to attract the next bunch of recruits. Call me optimistic, but if that's the reality we now face, then I'm not concerned at all. I'd be delighted. /My opinions on this though are more in line with IanW's a few posts back for the record. The asset stripping arguement is utterly unsustainable which conflicts directly with the policy Ashey is apparently trying to lay down for the club. Carroll, Milner and Basong all realised an instant profit and where immediately sold. Tell me NUFC would not be a better Club with all three stil in B&W shirt. If it isn't the fact they were sold its the timing that is the killer as none have been replaced in the same window. Not too bothered about the other two but still massively smarting over Carroll as he is a bit of a one off and it's likely whoever comes in won't make up for that for me sadly. I'm not going to argue that the club will cash in if big offers come in, that's the reality financially at the moment. But we're still not making money from the likes of Milner and Bassong, just stemming losses, and long term we'll never be able to keep producing wunderkids if we keep selling them off an continually flirt with relegation. The club should have the nous to see that, and I'm willing to see how we do this summer in showing a willingness to keep hold of players and invest in the team if we stay up before getting edgy over a policy of buying players whoes values should increase enough to make a profit. It is a fundamentally welcome policy that all clubs surely aim for, especially if we get to a point like Tottenham where we can see that profit realised long term on the pitch rather that have to always sell to 'bigger' clubs.

When he does make it back, I can see myself bricking it everytime someone goes in on him from now on. It's not a feeling I'm looking forward to tbh.

He lives on the edge. The kind of risky outside the box thinking this club needs.

Nobodys getting on a high horse, just a discussion. Can you see any long term benefits in employing this approach? ashley moves on? Or gives him more of a reason to stay. Some really great discussion in this thread lads, what a read. Of course he'll stay if he can continually turn investments of £0m to £5m into £8m to £10m profit he'll just produce a conveyor belt of players sold for profit. Trouble is that NUFC ssupporters will be paying £500+ every season to watch nothing more than a talent drain. We'll have no real opportunity to break the top 8 because it'll be those Clubs that are asset stripping our team. My concerns exactly. Call it pessimism, but in my opinion it's the reality we now face. If we turn players who cost nothing into £8m to £10m profit continually, the club will be making some unbelievably impressive buys, be employing a mightily impressive coaching staff, and providing a great enviroment on the pich to allow talent to shine, while being successful enough to attract the next bunch of recruits. Call me optimistic, but if that's the reality we now face, then I'm not concerned at all. I'd be delighted. /My opinions on this though are more in line with IanW's a few posts back for the record. The asset stripping arguement is utterly unsustainable which conflicts directly with the policy Ashey is apparently trying to lay down for the club.

Not a twiter fella, any chance someone can test his reslove and see if he might come north again?

I wouldn't say it's particularly awesome that we're offering such a pitiful deal that he's unhappy with. At least Wallace's account puts that offer just as a starting point in the negotiations and an agreement was pretty much there, and could well be there in the summer bar some dancing. Good to get another view of the talk in.

Don't think popping out for a couple of hours and not drinking any alcohol counts as partying like a rock star. A Christian rock star maybe. if you believe thier statement of course, which i certainly don't. Ian W is a very credulous chap. I envy that characteristic. Also known as incredibly naive. TBF I do believe them, after being caught red handed they wouldn't come out and apologise only to lie to everyone. They didn't look drunk or tired or anything in the photo (though I was concentrating on the abs obviously). I'm not cynical by nature though, must admit. That's had me caught out buy Mike Ashley a number of times. Personnally don't see any reason to doubt them tbh. I don't think it's naive to think that it wouldn't be 5 minutes before someone who was at the place to pipe up that they were drinking if they were. It may well be that Ireland and co are not the sharpest of tools, but they would have to be flatlining (as would the whoever set up the official apology) to lie about something like that.

Not on my nelly. He's not going to sign a new contract ... Well lets hope not eh, best not to jinx it.

What about the road though? Would run under the stand presumably. Just cannot see them ever getting arond to extending it though. Massive cost for a few extra seats.

Not on my nelly.

Arf.

"To have someone here who hates me is just amazing. I know he hates me. If he was someone important to me, I would try to talk to him and see what the problem is. But he's not. So we don't talk" - If this is how Manuel Almunia felt about Jens Lehmann in 2008, he'll be delighted that the out-of-work goalkeeper, 82, is in talks to rejoin Arsenal -Fiver

Unfortunately? /Ah apologies, forgot. Any stability, and lets face it, relative success that Pardew remaining in charge for a good while to come would in all likelyhood mean, runs compleately contradictory to your anarchic nature. Amirite?

Fair play to you for that. But, for starters, I'm one who'd be utterly stunned if we didn't spend any money in the summer.