BottledDog

But we'll only make any decent money if he does well in the team... /Circular arguements are circular.

The manager who signed those players is gone though. We may have got him in on loan while Hughton was here, but did HBA not sign with us permanently under Pardew? I doubt he'd do that if Hughton was the sole reason for his arrival.

No, no, wouldn't dream of it. That's not being a doommonger in the slightest.

I know it helps being at top clubs, but that is just... woah!

Aye good to see the club backing the youngsters. And great to see us back in Europe so soon tbh.

I think I'm right in saying he's attended a respectable number of games to be fair, especially given his circumstances - plenty of locals with less to their name. I didn't know he was a Southerner until you told us he was. It's not as though he supported Chelsea last week, Man Utd the week before and is just playing political games on here for a laugh, though. Saying that, I suppose he's more mental than most Cockneys to be hanging round here getting belts given he hasn't got £200m at stake. Not all Newcastle supporters are season ticket holders, in fact most aren't. That's not the point, imagine someone without kids of their own telling you how you should be treating your own kids "for the better of society" - you'd be aggrieved that they had the barefaced cheek to do it. Again, I challenge you to find somewhere where I have said that people should boycott home games. In fact, despite a number of people suggesting it - it's something that I or we have not endorsed. Agreed, and good on you for that. Though you have pushed for a boycott of Sports Direct, and more importantly, you've also said you would look at the possibility of boycotting all club merch and matchday sales, which, as I've said previously, does nothing but harm the club in my eyes. Both Chris and I feel very strongly about the "sponsorship" of our club by Sports Direct. We will be discussing (and in Chris' words before I get cut to pieces) ... • Fans believe the continuing and ever-increasing sponsorship packages which SportsDirect hold at St. James Park are degrading the stadium. • The Gallowgate roof • The stadium name • The logos now on the dug-out seats look awful. • Can the club reveal how these transactions work? Does the club actually benefit financially from money flowing from one of Mike Ashley’s holdings to another? We do support a boycott of Sports Direct, however, in the least antagonistic way possible, on my part we have only proposed boycotts of merch, food, drink etc on here and have not made it public. We haven't encouraged it anywhere ... Good, I just don't see how it helps anyone. The quality of the Sports Direct logo aside though, I do agree that unless there is a new paying sponsor lined up, the question does need to be ask just how much the club are currently gaining from the current branding.

His investment is something like £250m isn't it? Even if he managed to sell a ruined Football club with a severely dwindling fanbase (as it would be with the strategy you're suggesting) for £100m. He'd then have to bring in £150m in profit from the club, hows he going to do that in less then 10 seasons? You've mentioned some random fee's their, but I don't see the relevance. A lot of those were acquired before he was even here, when we had a squad of expensive/highly thought of (but of course totally useless in the main) players. Also most of them ended up being sold, not to pay off his loan, but to try to keep the club going financially due to the fact that he'd gotten us relegated, and he actually still lost out anyway and had to add further to his loan to keep the club going. Quite. If it's such a reasonable strategy, surely all these other clubs might have hit upon this golden formula to reel in the profits by now? It's simply not that easy to create a production line of top line talent. We are very lucky (or good transfer judgement recently) to have players currently that are good enough to turn the heads of champions league clubs. Obviously it would be great to bring in more players on a par with them, but realistically, banking a few sales now should, if used wisely, help us move on much further, much faster as a club than we can afford as things stood as a newly promoted side.

Yup, thank God we have no out goings. /lets just wait for the accounts before deciding we're suddenly rolling in it eh.

"he also said "I try to do the best for the club, even if sometimes you don't like my decisions", I hate him but he was very polite" - See, lovely bloke.

Thanks. For. That.

I think I'm right in saying he's attended a respectable number of games to be fair, especially given his circumstances - plenty of locals with less to their name. I didn't know he was a Southerner until you told us he was. It's not as though he supported Chelsea last week, Man Utd the week before and is just playing political games on here for a laugh, though. Saying that, I suppose he's more mental than most Cockneys to be hanging round here getting belts given he hasn't got £200m at stake. Not all Newcastle supporters are season ticket holders, in fact most aren't. That's not the point, imagine someone without kids of their own telling you how you should be treating your own kids "for the better of society" - you'd be aggrieved that they had the barefaced cheek to do it. Again, I challenge you to find somewhere where I have said that people should boycott home games. In fact, despite a number of people suggesting it - it's something that I or we have not endorsed. Agreed, and good on you for that. Though you have pushed for a boycott of Sports Direct, and more importantly, you've also said you would look at the possibility of boycotting all club merch and matchday sales, which, as I've said previously, does nothing but harm the club in my eyes.

Hah, think is the first time he's had a proper post match interview on .co.uk. English is getting better.

True. A win next time out & a SAFC loss would be the boost everyone wants & it would set up the last 10 games of the season nicely. That might be setting us up for a fall, sadly. Just can't see Best and Loven scoring the goals regularly enough to stay as high as we are now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/08/chris-hughton-newcastle-premier-league 8/4/10 to 16/8/10 = 3 players signed before the season started, 2 frees and one for £2m? None of them signed as starters, one of whom was unfit for a month and one who would be injured for the majority of the season. Touché. And then a few more came in later in the window like Moyo, Ben Arfa, and Tiote. Come on UV, we may have had all the time in the world to plan, but I think it's fair to say a lot of players and clubs will hold out for as long as possible to see if any better offers/clubs come in. There is no reason at all to believe negotiations didn't begin well before any deals were actually finalised. 5? I count 2, and one of those almost turned up on our doorstep by accident. Stealth edit I see. The point was about early planning for the next season. I'd only call Tiote & Perch scouted and planned buys, Gosling & Campbell were opportunistic signings, and Ben Arfa just landed at our door (quite literally). I'd say we've been very, very fortunate with the way things have turned out this season rather than it's come about through great planning. Do you remember how well we planned over the Summer for our year in the Championship too? I remeber how we planned to be sold that summer which didn't exactly help. Nevertheless, we did enough to get straight back out of the division.

Actually, if anything, that makes me feel a bit happier. More possitive now that he can be persuaded, and it's not a foregone conclusion.

The full interview is in Marca and also mentions broken promises. Is a worse read than the Mail quotation. Ah, bugger. I'm going to regret this, but any translations?

I fear that might happen. Did Konchesky play for Pardew at West Ham? Nee way, Paul f***ing konchesky is nearly 30. We can't make a profit on someone that old.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/08/chris-hughton-newcastle-premier-league 8/4/10 to 16/8/10 = 3 players signed before the season started, 2 frees and one for £2m? None of them signed as starters, one of whom was unfit for a month and one who would be injured for the majority of the season. Touché. And then a few more came in later in the window like Moyo, Ben Arfa, and Tiote. Come on UV, we may have had all the time in the world to plan, but I think it's fair to say a lot of players and clubs will hold out for as long as possible to see if any better offers/clubs come in. There is no reason at all to believe negotiations didn't begin well before any deals were actually finalised.

What I didn't get with that was his assertion that it woud be good for Enrique and the club to wait til summer. I can get the Enrique part... but the club? /actually thinking about it, it may have just been to take some heat out of any criticism of Jose's decision? Fair play if that was the case, just seemed odd at the time. Maybe, but hypothetically it would also it would be a big contract to support in the Second Division. Sign him up and risk getting lumbered, would be the idea. Whey, yes, that would be another way of looking at it. Get to bed man On the same train of thought, with a slightly more positive spin, it would maybe in Pardews eyes give us more leeway with Ashley to offer him a far bigger contract once we're safe than we can at the moment - so we could hold onto him. G'night!

What I didn't get with that was his assertion that it woud be good for Enrique and the club to wait til summer. I can get the Enrique part... but the club? /actually thinking about it, it may have just been to take some heat out of any criticism of Jose's decision? Fair play if that was the case, just seemed odd at the time. Maybe, but hypothetically it would also it would be a big contract to support in the Second Division. Sign him up and risk getting lumbered, would be the idea. Whey, yes, that would be another way of looking at it.

Ah, I'm sorry. It's getting stupidly late (blame Enrique!). You are absolutely right of course. There are continuing effects from the big decisions and sadly this might be a symptom; even if in Carrolls case, while I hate seeing him go, it may yet help us push on quicker than we otherwise might have (if we do spend wisely). But I would hope we can still remain positive off the pitch while the team still show fight on the pitch. One article doesn't change that for me.

What I didn't get with that was his assertion that it woud be good for Enrique and the club to wait til summer. I can get the Enrique part... but the club? /actually thinking about it, it may have just been to take some heat out of any criticism of Jose's decision? Fair play if that was the case, just seemed odd at the time.

That would be pretty damn positive for the club though tbf. /not that I have gone as far to claim either suggestion mind. At least not while sober.

Sorry, misread your post, particularly this bit - "so if the aims of the club's government and its team's members diverge, problems could arise". Hopefully that's not what we're seeing. Tthe lads out on the pitch still look to be working for each other, fingers crossed both they and Enrique keep it up until the end of the season.