Dokko

12 million max from us. No mate, you're paying £17m. Regardless of what you make back by selling another (equally as good) player, you're paying £17m. Which, in the words of every sane person on the planet, is sheer lunacy. Takes inflation to new levels. I'll take Viduka on a free, thanks. Paying more for Bent than we did for Owen or even Shearer is fuking laughable. How much did Manu pay for RVN? This is the kind of talent you should get for close to £20m, the lad hasn't even had an International career FFS!

Well, there's another person i hope breaks both his legs on his debut, if he ever sees it.

I thought Spurs overpaid for him tbh, this is just crazy shit, i honestly thought Chelsea's stupid days were coming to a close, obviously not if this is true.

Been costing them for about 2 years but not a single scouser would admit it. You talk some shit Yet again Fins over rating their sports stars. I'll give you the terrible marking in the Benfica game giving a free header away to a fellow defender as Sami sniffs the ground. Classy. Many moments like this happened (although not all punished due to Carragher being a bit handy) the season before last, Rafa cottoned on quickly and why he's been phased out of the team the season just gone, Liverpool fans are just catching up now, Fins i see are still far behind. Wooo..Classy. You proved your point with one goal In fact he's been very solid when ever he has played this season. He's not young anymore and I remember him saying last season that he wouldn't mind a rest once in a while. If you give him a rest now and then he'll do a great job. Exactly the reason why Rafa isn't letting him leave. And you think there might be a reason why the Liverpool fans don't think he's costing them? There are plenty of other times, i just struggle to remember them all as i'm not a Liverpool fan, but yet remember the feeling of laughter on several occasions at some of the stuff the old man was doing season before last. Rafa isn't letting him leave as he doesn't want to have to fork out to buy another defender, at some time, probably before the confusing of how much money he's getting to spend, Sami must of been made aware of Liverpool's intentions to offload him, stories do tend to be made up, but when Rafa comes out and says he still has plans for him it shows no smoke without fire. Yet you seem to think you have better opinion of the player than them ? Sometimes its easier to look in, especially when a hero is vastly on the decline.

Been costing them for about 2 years but not a single scouser would admit it. You talk some shit Yet again Fins over rating their sports stars. I'll give you the terrible marking in the Benfica game giving a free header away to a fellow defender as Sami sniffs the ground. Classy. Many moments like this happened (although not all punished due to Carragher being a bit handy) the season before last, Rafa cottoned on quickly and why he's been phased out of the team the season just gone, Liverpool fans are just catching up now, Fins i see are still far behind. Wooo..Classy. You proved your point with one goal In fact he's been very solid when ever he has played this season. He's not young anymore and I remember him saying last season that he wouldn't mind a rest once in a while. If you give him a rest now and then he'll do a great job. Exactly the reason why Rafa isn't letting him leave. And you think there might be a reason why the Liverpool fans don't think he's costing them? There are plenty of other times, i just struggle to remember them all as i'm not a Liverpool fan, but yet remember the feeling of laughter on several occasions at some of the stuff the old man was doing season before last. Rafa isn't letting him leave as he doesn't want to have to fork out to buy another defender, at some time, probably before the confusing of how much money he's getting to spend, Sami must of been made aware of Liverpool's intentions to offload him, stories do tend to be made up, but when Rafa comes out and says he still has plans for him it shows no smoke without fire.

Been costing them for about 2 years but not a single scouser would admit it. You talk some shit Yet again Fins over rating their sports stars. I'll give you the terrible marking in the Benfica game giving a free header away to a fellow defender as Sami sniffs the ground. Classy. Many moments like this happened (although not all punished due to Carragher being a bit handy) the season before last, Rafa cottoned on quickly and why he's been phased out of the team the season just gone, Liverpool fans are just catching up now, Fins i see are still far behind.

I'd hope Ashley continues with the redevelopments of SJP and the surroundings as i see that as a vital part of the clubs future. I'd like to see SA keep building up the squad like he's doing now, then maybe one or two big surprises later on as the window is closing, if not i can wait till this time next year. Equally as important i want to see as many coaches and specialists coming through the doors as amount of players, maybe more! Expectations in the league? Pride 1st and foremost, something i haven't experienced with NUFC for too many seasons now, get that back, get SJP solid again, and finish in a UEFA cup spot and hopefully treat both cups like our euro & cup competitions combined, no weak teams.

I thought Ali Dia now plays for Blyth Spartans?

Manu around Xmas, second Manu game around New Year. Bolton away in the 1st 5 game. Sunderland at home our 1st home game 1st game of the season away, possibly Everton. Liverpool boxing day.

Which is about what you'd pay Ben Haim over a 5 year contract. Davies Fee: £8m Signing on fee £500k Wages: £25k x 5 years = £6.5m Total: £15m Ben Haim Fee: £0 Signing on fee : £2m Wages: £65k x 5 years = £16.9m Total: £18.9m All guess work, but in the end him at £65k pw isn't worth it imo. A couple of comments on that. Who says there would be a £2 million signing on fee for Ben Haim? Who says Davies would accept £25,000 per week? Davies is s*** in comparison to Ben Haim. Finally even based on your guesses he would only be slightly more expensive if he stayed for the full 5 years. We'd pay more for Davies right from day one then we'd pay Ben Haim for his first two years! It would take until year four of his contract before he'd finally become more expensive then Davies, and that's going by your rather dubious guesses on wages and signing on fee's. These figures are guess work as stated, feel free to guess your own at any time during the discussion.

1st touch of an Ameobi tbh. Very hit and miss, can see him winning them the odd game, but for the other 34 he'd just not be there. I reckon he's need a good team to perform well in, and he hasn't got that.

Basically admitting as much that he didn't move for the money. Almost a certain he'd be better off financially staying at Boro, which is an even bigger kick in the nuts for them.

Which is about what you'd pay Ben Haim over a 5 year contract. Davies Fee: £8m Signing on fee £500k Wages: £25k x 5 years = £6.5m Total: £15m Ben Haim Fee: £0 Signing on fee : £2m Wages: £65k x 5 years = £16.9m Total: £18.9m All guess work, but in the end him at £65k pw isn't worth it imo. And after 2/3 years they would have revised contracts offered to prevent the spectre of a Bosman walk out a couple of years further down the line. Davies goes up to £35k (no problem), what the hell would Ben Haim be looking for?? The figures you came up with seem reasonable and the conclusion spot on! Seems about right imo, his contract would go up, but even with a steady £35k over the 5 years he's cheaper than Ben Haim at Chelsea's offer. The fact he's younger and English would also see Davies as a better buy for the club in the long term, Chelsea may come in for him at £30m with Ben Haim as part ex desperate for 1st team football So, end of the day, no real worry about losing out on Ben Haim at £65k, if that's what Chelsea are offering then he'll just be adding to the near £300m debt their in and rising.

I wouldn't either, not at his age, silly money.

I think Taylor will have something to say about his u21 partner being paid more than him. I think you are over estimating his weekly wage, but even with a £10k a week increase (which would be silly money for someone so young who had a tough time in the Championship last season and desperately want to get back in the EPL) the point is if Chelsea are going £65k, then Ben Haim is not worth it, and i stand by that, and it would work out cheaper to sign Davies, who also in 5 years will hold better market value than Ben Haim simply as he's English and younger.

Been costing them for about 2 years but not a single scouser would admit it.

Which is about what you'd pay Ben Haim over a 5 year contract. Davies Fee: £8m Signing on fee £500k Wages: £25k x 5 years = £6.5m Total: £15m Ben Haim Fee: £0 Signing on fee : £2m Wages: £65k x 5 years = £16.9m Total: £18.9m All guess work, but in the end him at £65k pw isn't worth it imo.

Well that would be a first, and very unlikely imo. We could easily offer 40k a week which would be about double what he was on at Bolton, if he wants 65k to sit on the bench at Chelsea then fook him. About the size of it really. Not worth £65k, i've got issues with £40k tbh, so lets look elsewhere, i hear Curtis Davies is mulling over if he should hand in his transfer request. That would be interesting Very considering you'd have to pay Ben Haim about £2m signing on fee, as well as £65k, i reckon Davies would settle for around £25k at his age, especially if he want the move, so thats £2m a year (x 5 year contract) less in wages, should cover any fee for Davies tbh.

Well that would be a first, and very unlikely imo. We could easily offer 40k a week which would be about double what he was on at Bolton, if he wants 65k to sit on the bench at Chelsea then fook him. About the size of it really. Not worth £65k, i've got issues with £40k tbh, so lets look elsewhere, i hear Curtis Davies is mulling over if he should hand in his transfer request.

No ta, still would take Sol though.

Saw him on Soccer AM, said a few more Citeh players needed a good kicking. Good interview, sums up their despair right now.

He should waver it, and in a couple of articles its been reported he will waver it, but its blew up again, don't know the reason or if those articles were right, maybe he feels if he drops that, the club and Dabo should drop the assault charges. He should drop it, or ask for the money be donated to charity, something like the 'shit footballers who are battered by their team mates foundation'

He's already rich, what is 300K regardless of whether he's owed it or not? Mind I'm in no doubt that prick of an agent of his is behind it all, after all wasn't he the one who negotiated a release clause into his contract. Still, they are both pricks and this is typical of players and agents today. And Man City sat there and didn't know what they were doing when the clause went in? They also put the clause in therefore they also are held accountable for the trouble being caused right now. So easy to jump on Barton as of his bad boy image, but the club he is leaving is thick as mince, and deserve to be taken to court over this. Put Joey Barton aside, and the club are the ones to blame for this mess, just because its WM & JB are any toon fans sticking up for citeh, if it were Parker (professional) & another agent we'd all be going nuts.

Totally. Its why i'm liking SA working the current budget. In fact i'd rather him stick to this budget right now and do it sensibly and not over stretch the club. Do you think its just mis communication at Liverpool right now or something bigger?

I wonder whats going on there? Possibly just trying to force down player prices stating they've got no money or have a tight budget, or possibly the Americans have lied to get the club. Maybe the stadium is proving more expensive than 1st thought, maybe Rafa and the fans are jumping the gun and they are just waiting for the TV money to come through, either way, all is not calm at Liverpool right now, especially after Manu just went and blew them out of the water with their summer signings which are already done and dusted. If the report is true though, and Rafa isn't pleased they could possibly be looking for a new manager, he'll walk if he feels he's been treated unfairly. But i think Liverpool fans were expecting a bit too much, the Americans have sunk the money into the stadium, and basically want the TV money, all £40m of it, it be sunk into new players. I cant see anything wrong with that, £40m would move Liverpool forward spent correctly, but i think Rafa wants about 3-4 £15m players to bring Liverpool up to scratch and with Manu already doing that, that would only mean right now they are standing still (theoretically).