James

To be honest, Given has probably gone as far as he can go. If we think we can get someone better without breaking the bank, I'm all for it.

Wasn't Vetere supposed to have spent a few weeks in South America recently?

Weird if true.

That was my initial response after seeing what he did with my own eyes, but now I think I just won't applaud him.

Sorry, but I do feel that this is a historic moment for football that clubs are starting to use this method to recruit players. For instance, Gerrard and Carragher can leave Liverpool for £12m next summer. Would have been double that for Gerrard previously. Anorak. And proud of it.

You know that the only bits of him in the Argy video are the cross, him giving away a free kick, and him kissing the goalscorer? All the good bits were other players and he wasn't involved at all in those particular sequences.

Sorry, but I do feel that this is a historic moment for football that clubs are starting to use this method to recruit players. For instance, Gerrard and Carragher can leave Liverpool for £12m next summer. Would have been double that for Gerrard previously.

He wears a spiderman mask when he scores.

"errr chris, could you pop back up north for a week or two" The deal wouldn't look so good if those become the numbers we have to start thinking about. Sure we must have checked all avenues first mind. I'm sure there were teams that tried challenging the Bosman ruling when other players tried taking advantage of it. Fact is, Mallorca don't have a leg to stand on, I doubt they have been following the nuances of the Webster case, and as a consequence have probably been caught by suprise, hence the compo claim. Wouldn't you be pissed off if you could have sold a player for £7m in January, only for him to piss of somewhere else for £2m in July? I sympathise with Mallorca, but I think NUFC have had this one worked out good and proper, and as a consequence, the inflated transfer market is verging on collapse.

Cost £2m to buy out his contract then.

Yeah, it is on their official site after he confirmed his departure yesterday.

Over 23, so it is unlikely, but still possible.

Indeed there are many courts, but you can appeal an counter-appeal, and it is these two courts who ultimately make the final decisions regardless of what gets said elsewhere.

It is out of FIFA's hands, it is the EU which has forced this clause into FIFA law, and it is the CAS that has enforced it. Well whoevers done it, there idiots.. I can see a lot of court cases coming from this ruling, evenually ending in the ruling being changed. It has been to court, and has been victorious just like the Bosman ruling. Going to be very difficult to come back from this now.

It is out of FIFA's hands, it is the EU which has forced this clause into FIFA law, and it is the CAS that has enforced it.

Thought I'd check if this ruling has any bearing in the Cristiano Ronaldo situation, it doesn't right now, but unless they can get him to sign a new contract, Real can get him for £5m in two years.

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Spanish league season finished May 18th. Jonas then has days (not sure how many exactly, lets say one week) to hand in his notice. To do this, he needed to be pretty sure that he had a destination in mind. During his notice period, you'd imagine that Mallorca may have tried to persuade him to stay, and that if he needed to speak with more than one club, he'd thrash out the best possible personal terms. He then confirmed his departure yesterday, leading to Mallorca announcing the news and threatening to sue him. Today he joined NUFC. -------------------------------------------------- That is all quite protracted, and it is very very very impressive that we kept this so quiet, although perhaps we needed too.

There is a rule in the Webster Law that a player has to give notice of his intentions days after the last league fixture of the season. As such, this was a done deal for well over a month.

They are idiots if they thought they were going to get £10 million for a player in the final year of his contract. Surely they forced the guys hand? It appears they screwed themselves over. Mallorca can pull out if they want. Its only a friendly and I'm sure something else can be arranged. This is very interesting as I remember Keegan saying something along the lines of Bosman's being available that were worth a lot of money but when I looked at the actual Bosman's they were crappy players. Maybe he meant Websters! Anyone want to pull together some other interesting Webster possibilities? I'm crap at this sort of thing. Wouldn't be very good for those who have booked plane tickets to Majorca already mate.

PS if anyone has doubts that this transfer was a Webster, check out Real Mallorca's Official website: http://www.rcdmallorca.es/ Yesterday he bought out his contract, and Mallorca want to take this to court. To be fair, when asking for £10m for a player, you'd be pissed off if a player gave you a two fingered salute and then buggered off for a tenth of that. BTW, am I the only one worried that Mallorca might back out of our pre season arrangement based on our exploitation?

So he did, but I think Besiktas were perfectly happy to negotiate it in this instance. Assuncao and Jonas have met much more resistance from their clubs as they are actually worth something.

That is it AFAIK, but it only got properly sanctioned this year, and today is the third full day of open transfer window since the finalisation of the Webster case.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf Article 17 plus the definitions at the start of the dossier is what needs reading. I was wrong about new contracts not resetting it though, they do.

Article 17 of FIFA's Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players