The College Dropout

Interesting take on this thread mind... https://twitter.com/beaumontdmd/status/1080751866227625985?s=21 Topple Celtic for 1 or 2 years. Job done. Also they could actually win the SPL this season. So why not?

Bernardo and Fernandinho in particular. Bernardo ended up doing his pressing and Aguero's. Aguero may have just been tired but he looked injured. Barely moved at all come the end. KDB, Kompany and Aguero. Fragile bodies for key players. Where Van Dijk and Salah haven't had an injury in some time.

Not sure who else there was tbf to McClaren. Ultimately though we were in that mess and still in a mess because of one person and one person only. Thauvin first half of the season.

I didn't know that tbf. Knew Marcos Alonso killed a passenger while driving drunk.

Think Liverpool looked very good mind. It's only that lack of guile in midfield and perhaps not the strongest characters that I think about. I don't think Mane and Firminho are clinical enough in tight matches - not sure it will matter though. A slightly better finish from Mane and they win this easily. They look a much stronger team but do lack some guile. City so determined and were clinical. But I liked the look of Liverpool more at 0-0 and 1-1. City do have more players with a higher level of "bit of magic" and that's how they won with a mad work-rate. City have massive problems at fullback. Missing De Bruyne massively in midfield too. Things could all change. If Salah or Van Dijk get injured for the rest of the season, Liverpool won't win the title. Those 2 are so key. Otherwise a lot of the other players can come in and out the system.

Gini Wijnaldum y'all...

Aguero looks injured. Has barely moved in the last 5 minutes.

Sterling gave Liverpool defenders the eyes.

Rafa too tbf.

Seems a nice lad. Just don't rate him much as a player. Sissoko and Wijnaldum are good, functional players. Seem like good professionals and can lay a foundation for more talented players to shine. Having them as your main wide man and AM in a pap team - they will clearly struggle. Would've been interesting to see them play in the middle together. Football is a team game. They are functional pieces of great sides. They're not great players. Still feel like if Liverpool need to rely on Wijnaldum in crunch moments, he will become invisible.

I think I remember Bellamy talking about bullying and how to treat young players on "The Debate" literally a month or two ago. Was talking to a few friends earlier. It's amazing how much negative press gets swept under the rug about footballers. Joey Barton is a football manager and gets the odd TV appearance. He's been violent as hell in his career. Beaten people up. Suspended for betting from playing. Bellamy has had a few violent or extremely aggressive incidents as a player. Marcos Alonso killed a passenger when he was drunk driving. A number of players get caught drink driving too. Rooney. Lloris.

Aye, Real Madrid are referred to a lot as simply Madrid.

Nah. He'll be a backup. They might even fancy Son before him uptop. Nope. Go somewhere where he can get the most games. I actually think he'd be on the bench at Wolves too. Jimenez is under-rated imo. 19 starts, 6 goals, 4 assists. Good link up and touch. Works hard. Wolves aren't the most creative side in the world either.

Such a daft argument. Pro Gymnast careers are over in their early 20s, but you don't expect them to get paid millions each week to compensate. Wages are relative to the money in the sport, not the length of their professional careers. ]]Eh? I just said: "Why should the main attractions of a multi billion pound industry become plumbers once it’s over?" You've proved my point. Short career element is more to do with the fact., players can't waste 3-4 years of their careers being underpaid in their primes. Usually a 7 year window at their peak. I can't blame them for ensuring they get paid as much as possible. Most players don't actually choose to solely focus on that either otherwise more would go to China in their primes or similar. It's usually a mix of sporting ambition and salary.

The average salary is £26000ish, anybody who is earning that per week, can f*** off with the short career argument. You only need a year to earn more than the average person earns in a lifetime. Also they don't take their careers into their own hands, they have agents. Totally agree. They earn more than most of us will make in a lifetime in a couple of years. The tiniest, tiniest bit of financial common sense, not extensive wealth management, but basic common sense will see them right in retirement for the rest of their lives. No one is forcing players to waste their money on tasteless guilded turds and other bullshit. Any footballer who goes bankrupt deserves all they get. After all, nothing is stopping them from getting a proper job like the fans who fork out a fortune to pay their wages. Zero sympathy if they waste their money and have to get a job like the rest of us. Football is one of few professions where for some reason, trying to increase your income is frowned upon. I think it's perhaps jealousy and that people don't consider it a real job. If you saw a former Premier League footballer working a regular job you would probably get schadenfreude. Footballers' salaries aren't decided based on your own situation. You haven't done them any favours. You have a rate based on your industry and location. Brad Pitt has his. Footballers have theirs. Football is a billion-pound industry. The players, at the least, deserve to be as rich as possible. £26k in a year puts you in the top 1% of the world in terms of income. In a 2 parent household, it's enough to live on. I'm not going to sit here and deride you for wanting to earn more. And the agent works on behalf of the player. The player is the agents boss. The agent can be fired. Ultimately, players make the final decisions. Sure agents are hugely influential. Because for the vast majority, the weekly pay rate was somewhat relatable, but now even that's getting out of hand. We might begin to see pay by day soon enough tbh. Why is weekly more relatable? Monthly I would understand. Don't most people look at their income from a yearly perspective? Maybe he means in the sense that a weekly wage of £50k doesn't immediately look as obscene to the eye as £200k a month? Hence the weekly amount getting out of hand comment. I mean from the point of view that your average Joe can grasp what 20,25 or even 50k actually means. A year's worth of work, or x amount to spend a month on that wage after bills. What is 1m to someone who earns 30k a year? But now as weekly wages are going beyond 300k, I was making the point that maybe we'd see these amounts referenced as 40,45k a day. Disgusting any way its looked at tho tbh. Ok I understand it now. I don't understand what footballers' wages have to do with your own - but ok, I understand the point. Why is it disgusting? Man United turnover 650m euros per year. Their biggest earner makes about 25m per year. For 4 years before he's replaced with someone younger. Out of interest, what is your take on CEOs who take home obscene wages? It’s nowt to do with footballers wages. I think it’s disgusting that CEOs can earn millions while other employees on their payroll can barely make a living. Football is one of the few professions where the average revenue Generating employee (first team player) might outearn directors and such. And i don’t think that’s a bad thing at all

Why should the main attractions of a multi billion pound industry become plumbers once it’s over? You wouldn’t expect Tom Cruise to become a plumber if nobody wants to pay him to act anymore. There’s no business or economic logic to footballers not earning astronomical wages. Their skill sets are valuable (people pay to see stars in person, on tv, shirts and other content) and rare. And they’re done it in a sport where the entry barriers are low and most men have had a fair shot to become one. No one goes on about F1 salaries. A lot more glamorous sport with much higher barriers to get involved.

A dance Son did today.

**Son does a milly rock dance celebration** "HE PLAYS WITH A SMILE ON HIS FASE!" **Lingard does a milly rock dance celebration!** "WHAT A TOTAL PRICK!"

Kept Kane but made him vice captain.

PFM in charge.

They've had the shortest rest (or second) days during the festive period.

Full strength side. I don't think any of our players get into Leicester's side.

Can't defend at all. Puel gets a lot of stick but Leicester look the better-coached side. Ricardo Perreira is a very tidy player. Gone with a very workman like team today tactically.

The average salary is £26000ish, anybody who is earning that per week, can f*** off with the short career argument. You only need a year to earn more than the average person earns in a lifetime. Also they don't take their careers into their own hands, they have agents. Totally agree. They earn more than most of us will make in a lifetime in a couple of years. The tiniest, tiniest bit of financial common sense, not extensive wealth management, but basic common sense will see them right in retirement for the rest of their lives. No one is forcing players to waste their money on tasteless guilded turds and other bullshit. Any footballer who goes bankrupt deserves all they get. After all, nothing is stopping them from getting a proper job like the fans who fork out a fortune to pay their wages. Zero sympathy if they waste their money and have to get a job like the rest of us. Football is one of few professions where for some reason, trying to increase your income is frowned upon. I think it's perhaps jealousy and that people don't consider it a real job. If you saw a former Premier League footballer working a regular job you would probably get schadenfreude. Footballers' salaries aren't decided based on your own situation. You haven't done them any favours. You have a rate based on your industry and location. Brad Pitt has his. Footballers have theirs. Football is a billion-pound industry. The players, at the least, deserve to be as rich as possible. £26k in a year puts you in the top 1% of the world in terms of income. In a 2 parent household, it's enough to live on. I'm not going to sit here and deride you for wanting to earn more. And the agent works on behalf of the player. The player is the agents boss. The agent can be fired. Ultimately, players make the final decisions. Sure agents are hugely influential. Because for the vast majority, the weekly pay rate was somewhat relatable, but now even that's getting out of hand. We might begin to see pay by day soon enough tbh. Why is weekly more relatable? Monthly I would understand. Don't most people look at their income from a yearly perspective? Maybe he means in the sense that a weekly wage of £50k doesn't immediately look as obscene to the eye as £200k a month? Hence the weekly amount getting out of hand comment. I mean from the point of view that your average Joe can grasp what 20,25 or even 50k actually means. A year's worth of work, or x amount to spend a month on that wage after bills. What is 1m to someone who earns 30k a year? But now as weekly wages are going beyond 300k, I was making the point that maybe we'd see these amounts referenced as 40,45k a day. Disgusting any way its looked at tho tbh. Ok I understand it now. I don't understand what footballers' wages have to do with your own - but ok, I understand the point. Why is it disgusting? Man United turnover 650m euros per year. Their biggest earner makes about 25m per year. For 4 years before he's replaced with someone younger.

Forgot they also signed Wilshere. Their wage bill must be in the top 8.