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All the best, thanks for the memories.

Good luck to him, has done well to battle back from the injuries he's had and despite not really being good enough has still given us some good memories as well as bad and seems like a really nice genuine lad.

They ran towards a neutral area of the ground, which was mostly filled with Juve fans, those "neutral" fans were completely innocent victims no doubt about that and the guilt lies firmly with the Liverpool fans who did as you say run towards them. The wall itself was not fit forpurpose, but that wouldn't have been an issue had the Liverpool fans not behaved in the way they did. There were however a hell of a lot Juve hooligans as well, they were located at the other end of the stadium though well away from the Liverpool fans, those pictures of them masked and running onto the field were clearly shown on the TV, it was just a long way for them to get to the Liverpool fans. I remember watching it vividly. The Juve fans rioting at the other end of the pitch was after the wall had collapsed, it was in response to what had happened at the Liverpool/Neutral end, they had nothing to do with the disaster itself which was caused by a couple of hundred Liverpool fans in a crowd of almost 60K. The banners they had with them, the masks they used to conceal their faces, clearly showed they had premeditated something, if the roles had been reversed and these Juve fans had been located in the area the Liverpool hooligans had been with that ridiculous wall separating them from multitudes of Liverpool fans. I would not have been surprised if the situation would have happen again only in reverse. There was clearly ill feeling between the two sets of fans for some years, Liverpool were the kings of Europe while Juve were busy buying the best players on the continent to dethrone them.The rivalry had spilled over to violence and tension building throughout the day. Both teams had the hooligan element though, whether Juve fans were reacting to what happened or not, Juve fans just didn't turn into hooligans because of the tragedy, it was very much there and they were both looking for a fight. Anyone who went to see ourselves play in inter in the San Siro in the Champs League will testify that Italian football fans are no angels and apparently Liverpool fans had been subjected to some pretty awful treatment in the previous years final which had been ridiculously held in Rome against Roma. Again not exonerating Liverpool here, but trying to strike some balance. Good post. But the bit in bold is exactly what I was referring to when scousers make excuses about Heysel. What's that got to do with the price of fish? Hooliganism was common place in those times, hooligans from a different team, in a different city gave you a bit of a hiding. So you use that as some kind of excuse to kick off? Not buying it. As well as the fact that the city the game was/is played in is decided a couple of years beforehand, eg Man Utd v Chelsea in Moscow, Chelsea v Munich in Munich, Atleti v Real in Lisbon etc.

annoying that was under the impression it would be on sky They're on YouTube also. They're listed as being available worldwide live on Xbox as well, and on Bein Sports in Europe and the US.

annoying that was under the impression it would be on sky I thought so too as I'm sure they've shown it in the past.

Why not? You'd be supporting the footballing federations of South America that needs all the help they can get at the moment. Games will be on at about 2300 in the UK though so I'd most likely fall asleep!

All games live on Premiersports TV. I'm not paying an £8 connection fee plus £11.99 for a minimum of 2 months just to watch them mind!!

I spoke to fans from both clubs during my trip to Germany for Euro 88, and indeed others who claimed they were there. It seemed pretty common knowledge amongst the England fans . Horrible trip that was in all ways. Wish I'd kept the money and put it by for Italia 90. Everton Hoolie book - Scally. The author of that was at Heysel along with other Evertonians just for a few days on the drink/rob, but whether there really were Chelsea or a large NF presecence is anyone's guess. I read something yesterday that said 60% of the English fans extradited and tried for their part in it were from Merseyside with the other 40% from as far afield as Aberdeen and Ipswich. Admittedly that's 40% of about 30 people so not really a true barometer and you have to add in the fact that Liverpool were like Man united and had fans from all over the place due purely to their success.

They ran towards a neutral area of the ground, which was mostly filled with Juve fans, those "neutral" fans were completely innocent victims no doubt about that and the guilt lies firmly with the Liverpool fans who did as you say run towards them. The wall itself was not fit forpurpose, but that wouldn't have been an issue had the Liverpool fans not behaved in the way they did. There were however a hell of a lot Juve hooligans as well, they were located at the other end of the stadium though well away from the Liverpool fans, those pictures of them masked and running onto the field were clearly shown on the TV, it was just a long way for them to get to the Liverpool fans. I remember watching it vividly. The Juve fans rioting at the other end of the pitch was after the wall had collapsed, it was in response to what had happened at the Liverpool/Neutral end, they had nothing to do with the disaster itself which was caused by a couple of hundred Liverpool fans in a crowd of almost 60K.

Apparently some players refused to talk about it for years. Him being a local, I guess he has his reasons. Still a cunt though. Apparently those quotes from Phil Neal are 10 years old? Didn't think he was local either, think he's from Northampton. Still wrong mind, unbelievably so. All he had to say was that he didn't want to talk about.

Job Interview? Nah, booking flights. His Godmother works here. Did she not make him an offer to go on a cruise? He may well be, but it won't be until 13th June as he's in the Wales ECQ squad 12th June.

Job Interview? Nah, booking flights. His Godmother works here.

Paul Dummett in our offices right now. Like most footballers he's smaller and thinner than they look on the pitch/tv.

Precisely. When teams are winning and players don't want to lose their places they never suffer from minor injuries. When teams are struggling players drop like flies at the slightest twinge. Cowards.

1st time i've seen Douglas and am not impressed.

Douglas currently making Willo look like a footballer on itv4. Perhaps JFK was right after all.

He looked lively as well didn't he? I half expected him to score a couple like his dad did against us for Charlton.

INgs for me out of them. He's also only 22 so has time on his side to improve.

what sort of f***ing childhood did you have? Apparently it is an actual thing Didn't everyone do that? 'Tell ya mother I saved your life, but don't tell her I pushed you'. Next you'll be denying that anyone has ever crouched down behind someone in order to let someone else push them over you. 80s/early 90s school playground japes man, or as the youth of today would put it 'top bantz' I'm surprised people have expressed surprise at hearing it, everyday occurrence someone pushing you onto the road and grabbing you at the last second and saying tell your mam I saved your life growing up in Gateshead in the 70's and early 80's.

I used to sit in the east stand benches a lot in the early 80's and at the front of the paddock before they put the benches in and like you say there was a sort of mound in the middle and you couldn't see the players feet and lower legs at the opposite side.

I dunno but Riviere was holding his hamstring and then trying to stretch it out for a good few minutes when WHAM had a player down injured. I know Perez was warming up for ages and was sent back out when Riviere missed his kick from that cross from Janmaat.

He had an absolute stinker yesterday bar his goal.

I don't want McLaren, want JC even less mind. McLaren is even smarmier than Pardew.

I disagree, we looked more dominant across the game for large spells. Stats show that too. For all the possession West Ham had they did fuck all with it. http://s21.postimg.org/flc5ii0fb/Results.png You can prove anything with stats. I'm sure the stats from last week would show we were all over QPR with loads of possession, shots, corners etc. Meaningless most of the time, and I still maintain that we were 2nd best for long periods today and couldn't get out of our own half for long periods too.

He was outstanding today, just wish he'd tried and scored himself instead fluffing the pass when clean through.