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Nah, I mean if Ashley somehow has had a stroke and changed his ways and all of that actually happened I'd be willing to support the club again. But it's never going to happen is it, so what's the point?

U20 World Cup has reached the knock-out stage. Brazil v Uruguay in OT right now and winner will play Portugal in quarters. Germany has been decent in the tournament and are probably through to the final with their side of the bracket looking quite easy unless Mali really are the real deal. Winner of Brazil/Uruguay and Portugal probably going through as well unless Senegal and Uzbekistan shocks everyone. US playing Serbia in one quarter-final but can't see any of them passing by a strong German side in the semi. Been some entertaining teams in the tournament in terms of history. Myanmar (absolutely destroyed) and Fiji played and Argentina went out with 2p in their group with Panama, Austria and Ghana.

You know, if we invest heavily in the squad this summer and McClaren has us playing decent football (don't care about results at the moment) I'll celebrate like mad. But I highly doubt any of these things will happens so I'll keep on falling more and more out of love with this club. Although I am ready to give it all a new fresh start if we invest heavily this summer.

Top 3 Brazilian player in history according to most behind Pele and Garrincha says it all about the type of player he was. Romario and Ronaldo are usually put above him because of winning the WC, but in terms of quality few can say that apart from Garrincha and Pele there was a better one in Brazil than him. I'd love Zico to become president for the fact that he seems extremely honest and has always been loved wherever he's been. My only problem is installing a Brazilian at the helm again, it's just bound for failure once again.

What an abomination this is. How dare you. :lol:

Nowhere near as bad as Scolari in that department tbf.

Our team is absolute sank on paper, but Dunga has gotten us solid once again. No idea how the friendlies will translate into a tournament, but we've been extremely good in all friendlies except the one against Chile.

Responsible for 89 goals. That's without mentioning the million and one times he'd slip someone through who would then assist the goal or something like that. First goal against Juve was like that, Iniesta did great but his pass was the one that opened it all up. He probably has a hand in everything they do. Neymars pass man.

He still has a problem with that though, when he's 2 on 1 with Suarez he'll go for the finish himself but when he's with Messi he'll look for Messi. He still looks for Messi a bit too much even when Suarez is in a much better position. He'll get his fair share of assists when he starts doing that.

I can't agree with that, and would love to see when Mourinho said that so if you could post a link I'd appreciate it. Even Chiellini once said without Ibra and Maicon Inter would struggle badly. Think the fact Maicon only had 2 at tops 3 great years has made him very underrated. He was a beast in all kinds of way.

As well.

What are you on about? If anything Dani had more cover, the team was set up in a way to cover him. Maicon was a beast defensively during that time as well as being a beast offensively. The season they won the CL, he scored 7 goals and had 12 assists while being one of the best defensively. That's why I rate him higher during his peak, obviously in terms of career it's hard to look past Dani between those two. But for those two years and the peak Maicon had I thought was in terms of being a right-back higher than Dani's.

I'm always told about Djalma Santos when I'm back in Brazil. But from those I've seen live it has to be Cafu and possibly Thuram. The rest are 2nd tiers to these guys, even Dani, Lahm, Zambrotta, Maicon etc.

Ridiculous

Ameobi?

Possibly, but it lasted like a year or two max at his absolute peak. I still remember your Maicon was the bestest ever phase, dude. You ain't escaping that easy. I distinctly remember you saying Maicon was easily better than Alves when that was only because Maicon was the more popular player. Alves at his best was better than Maicon. I don't agree. I think Maicons year with Inter when they won the CL was higher than any peak Dani Alves has had and if I remember it correct the year before as well. Unfortunately his peak only lasted for 2 seasons or so. But I do think that Maicon as RB was much more complete than Dani during those years. Maicon more popular player? He was one of the most underrated players at that time. He was so important for Inter.

Possibly, but it lasted like a year or two max at his absolute peak.

What how?

Cafu IMO, Alves is up there though more would openly say it if he wasn't such a c***. But he has no one but himself to blame for that. Cafu and it's not even close for me. Dani for all he was, wasn't Cafu. Same goes for Zanetti. Love Lahm as well, obviously not as spectacular, but always been such a balanced player.

Except Dani. So cool

Rockstar*

Brazil 2-0 up against Mexico.

Pele did everything Messi has done and more. How many full 90 minute games have you seen Pele play? Not much, but would say around 15. Obviously probably been his best performances, but in terms of winning he did everything Messi did and more. So did have Xavi and Iniesta, yet they're in the same team as Messi and you won't find anyone saying they're better than Messi. I dunno, I tie myself up in knots with this debate like, I've become a bit obsessed with it tbh, I need to get a f***ing life. I like it. rather discuss Messi than Newcastle

Pele did everything Messi has done and more. How many full 90 minute games have you seen Pele play? Not much, but would say around 15. Obviously probably been his best performances, but in terms of winning he did everything Messi did and more.