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Did he not already agree to sign for someone else in the summer on a free though? Or did that not end up happening?

Stick the toys back in the pram and stop worrying so much about what some toothless inbreds think.

Where did you get that from?

Just having Ben Arfa on for 90 minutes would make me look forward to watching the match even more than I usually do.

It doesn't matter how much we get, we've lost our best player and very few support a balance sheet. Not going to argue with anyone upset that he's going. Was just saying its typical that the most negative info (lowest fee) is taken as gospel. Also still believe what we spend is very much connected to what we sell players for, so the fee matters to me.

We've got tomorrow first. A win tomorrow and we should be confident. Given that Cabaye has been our talisman of late and is a leader amongst the group, added to seeing one of, if not, our best players leave it'll be interesting to see what sort of performance we turn in tomorrow. It's an easy excuse for all to turn in a half arsed display but at the same time it's a chance to do it for Yo etc. Depends what Pardew does. Will he move Sissoko into the middle and bring in Ben Arfa? Or will he leave Sissoko on the right and bring in Ameobi up front with Remy..

See everyone is happily accepting the lowest version of the fee, surprising like

Not sure why we'd make the fee sound higher than it is if we don't want to spend much, what would be the point?

You keep saying this, but whatever we spend on the direct replacement the amount we get certainly does matter for future transfers.

Maybe addons are the difference?

If its anything under £20m and they haven't got significant addons in their they've totally lost the plot. Well over two years on his contract and a world cup coming up, don't see why £25m is unreasonable.

Coloccini?

Want Cabella signed far more personally, not that I don't rate De Jong. Cabella is talented, but he'll get bullied in PL, he's skinnier than Neymar We'll see , hopefully EDIT: Hopefully we'll see not hopefully he'll be bullied I mean he might be less effective than De Jong at first (though he's hardly in great form) but he's a much more exciting signing going forward IMO.

Want Cabella signed far more personally, not that I don't rate De Jong.

A fairly average striker past his prime, so he'll be Sunderlands best forward.

Yep, discuss it with PSG and get an agreement that they will pay twice what it costs us for Cabella or they can get fucked. They can even wait while we tell Kinnear to get ready to be on the verge of phoning them for a quote if they like

I know its shit to see Cabaye go and Ashley's a cunt but ffs stop this trousering bollocks. Do you genuinely believe that the transfer fee will be reinvested in the club - the same way as the Carroll cash was? Yeah, as in probably not this window but long term (which is shit anyway, but I fear that's what will happen). Anything less would be even more stingy then Ashley has run us in the past. Have a look at transfers in and out since Carroll went and you'll see the outs even up with the ins. Basically as long as the club breaks even outside of transfers Ashley seems to run us as a break even on transfers as well, or that's how its been in the past.

I know its shit to see Cabaye go and Ashley's a cunt but ffs stop this trousering bollocks.

No it was a fair question, suppose it would be better if people just explained what they mean in real terms in the first place rather then using words like good or poor ect

Really hard to define, everyone has different ideas of what good, really good ect mean. Suppose its just best for me to say I think he's the weak link in the defence and he often irritates me during games with his soft tackling and getting caught out of position.

No fair enough, I don't necessarily think he should replace Santon now.

Terms like poor are always relative, just comparing him to the rest of the defence, the point is he's not a very good defensively. I think i've seen every minute of Haidara's appearances and he looks a little shaky defensively, but it's more his age than an ability thing. Age, or even adapting to the league, he's played far less Football for us than Debuchy did before he got himself sorted out. Not saying I know he'll be very good, or even better than Santon, just don't see how we can know how good he'd be if he replaced Santon and got bedded in. I don't disagree its a risk either, just talking about comparing them and saying Santon is miles better, don't see how its a fair comparison (not sure how Santon could be miles better than any half competent defender either).

How can you know that? Haidara's made 8 appearances, with plenty of those being short subs. All we know is that Santon is a poor defender, Haidara is as yet unproven.

£67k is hardly well above our limit, unless he'd want a wage raise in which case fuck off.

Well the club has been pretty much break even outside of transfers for the last few years and in that time the money that's come in for sales has gone out for new players (not always in a timely manner of course). Our finances are only getting better now so we should certainly expect nothing less than every penny being brought in from players to be reinvested in new signings. Anything less is a step back from the way we were ran prior to Kinnear, which was already quite stingy. Really with our revenue going up so much in the summer we should expect more.