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This 'Ben Arfa is fat' thing got old months ago like.

Now now be fair, Cisse did get one sub apearance in cup games last year Without Europe tiring us out so much he might get as many as 2 sub appearances, or even one start!

What? Just from some of the predictions it seems we must be talking about Premier League only but surely it makes more sense to look at all competitions. Just think about it.... Yeah ok fair enough Still might get the odd cup game/goal but I suppose its not going to make too much difference.. Anyway on how many I think he'll get. Last season went as badly for him as possible, shit form, shit luck, the whole team playing terribly. He got 9 (outside Europe) so I think its reasonable to think he'll get at least 12-15 next season. If he gets 15 that would be very good going considering I expect him to play no more than 38 games (including cups).

What? Just from some of the predictions it seems we must be talking about Premier League only but surely it makes more sense to look at all competitions.

Agreed ! Remy and Thauvin i'd be happy with. Would give us all a much needed lift signing someone young exciting quick and skilful like Thauvin ! At the moment our only two really creative players from out wide will be HBA and Remy. If one of those are injured then we are really going to struggle to create anything yet AGAIN this season ! If not Thauvin then Scott Sinclair for £6m or similar player would be a very decent signing for us. Can't see us paying his £60k a week wages though. Just watched Thauvin again on youtube looks like a hell of a prospect ! F*ck it spunk the lot all £20m on Thauvin Joe !!! Just get him here !!! He's meant to be available for £8m, so I definitely wouldn't be bidding £20m But yeah on a quality player who's very young and only going to get better we should be prepared to pay what's necessary to get him, even if its £10m or so. Still start at £7m though

Aye, I've made my point several times. I'll admit you were wrong for you just to end this embarrassment of a whatever this is. Still think my point is about you thinking Downing's a top, top player, fucking hell man But ok I'll admit you were wrong as well, agree to disagree ect.

Can't see any solution that's going to suit everybody. Unless they offer him an increased wage for one more year. Gomis gets a bit more cash, they get another chance to try to sell him next year. But how could they afford it?

Doesn't say a word about anyone being average, just that you'd prefer Ince. Again you might get the point I'm trying to make in the end and stop running round in circles trying to prove you don't think Downing's a top, top player. The hint here is in my following post after you said you were joking, take your time you've got all day

They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player So he went from "average but possibly rather handy" to "a top, top player" to "average but possibly rather handy" within a few days? Please just admit you were wrong. Where is you're pre "top, top player" quote saying he's just average like?, you didn't post that. Go and find it for me, you've got all day. Maybe eventually you'll get my point

They are all massively average bar maybe Carroll Separately, yes. Together they'll do a good job. I've got all day. Those quotes are from 5 days after you claimed he was a top, top player I suppose I could probably hunt around for a quote of me saying that us and Arsenal aren't comparable. But its more fun to make you to look around to try to prove you didn't think Stewart Downing was a top, top player

I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like" Aye. And?, so Ince is even more of a top player Its easy to be a difficult cunt like.. My post was so obviously tongue in cheek you're just embarrassed you didn't catch it man

I can spot when someone is backtracking. "tongue in cheek" or "drunk" is the give away. Nah mate unlike you I don't try to pretend I didn't really mean something after I realise how fucking stupid it was "Downing's a top, top player like"

Just a smoke screen mate, wasting their time on a player they can't get to make the fans happy, just like us with Gomis

Think people are saying being careful with your money is the right and logical way of running a club, instead of throwing cash around. Neither way means you'll automatically get the right players for the positions you need to fill, that comes down to the people making the decisions and which positions we need to fill. Freddy spent loads but we still went years with problem positions that he'd ignore year after year.

Especially if he really has £20m sitting their to spend.

Not very intuitive then are you

Arsenal didn't nearly just get relegated. Finished 4th in fact. You didn't think just maybe that was tongue in cheek? Having said that Arsenal certainly have even less excuse than us for spending fuck all and not improving the squad with the money they have.

Definitely, at least we've spent something this window Arsenal have brought nobody in (a youth player for free doesn't really count) and have sold/released something like 20 players and brought in £10m in fee's.

Clubs often agree everything with a player before agreeing a fee with the club though.

Just fucking stick a bid in for Thauvin Joe you crazy fucker!

Its not going to sink them of course (unless they kept doing it consistently) but it certainly matters. If they had £31m more in the bank right now (what they lost on Carroll and Downing alone) they'd have much more to spend in the current window. Before anyone says "well they've spent £24m this window anyway", they've also sold £29.5m of players in the same window to cover that. If they had that £31m they could have easily afforded Diego Costa for instance.

I'd rather just stop playing that formation and leave Jonas out of the side then bring in a player like Downing. Also bollocks to not laughing at them, wheres the fun in that? They're spending whats neccesary to bring in the players they want and if they were good players I'd be envious to a degree. But as it is they've bought a player I think is quite poor at a bad age for a bad price. Stop playing wide players? How the fuck does that work then? I'm talking about not playing 442 (usually when Gutierrez plays wide left its when we switch to 442) and instead play a proper 433 with Gouffran/Remy and Ben Arfa either side of Cisse. The way you're talking its a straight choice of either playing Gutierrez wide left or signing Downing and playing him in that position instead. But the fact is we have better options than Gutierrez already. Especially if we stop focusing so much on work rate and stopping the opposition and more on trying to attack them. I would like to see a wide left player come in, but I'd want someone who's a clear improvement on anyone we have in that area not just better than Gutierrez. Someone like Ince or Thauvin, not fucking Downing. Luckily I dont have to worry anyway, West Ham save the day yet again.

I'd rather just stop playing that formation and leave Jonas out of the side then bring in a player like Downing. Also bollocks to not laughing at them, wheres the fun in that? They're spending whats neccesary to bring in the players they want and if they were good players I'd be envious to a degree. But as it is they've bought a player I think is quite poor at a bad age for a bad price.

Are we talking about Premier League goals or goals in all competitions?

If Ashley did the same I'd imagine our view would be ''great if it works, if not you're a fucking looney'' from some and ''typical scum move by Ashley'' from others. Meanwhile the fans of the club trying to buy the player would be having a go at Ashley for moving the goal posts. Just dont see what's so wierd about anyone hear having a go at Aulas. I'm sure he wants the best for his club, but if we've offered what he's asked for and now he's wanting more again then sorry but thats a cunts trick and not something we have to just accept.