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Shearer wouldn't be my absolute first choice but he'd be well ahead of any other realistic choice. We've done well so far under Hughton due to the horrendous quality of this league. But IMO we'd be much better off under Shearer, especially long term.

I only have access to the last five tables but out of those only twice would 90 points not have won the league (04-05 when Sunderland got 94 and 05-06 when Reading got 106 points), 90 points was good enough for automatic promotion on all five occasions (usually something in the low to mid 80's is good enough).

Of those that have gone, the only ones that have left a real gap IMO are Bassong and to a lesser extent Beye. It would have been good to have kept Edgar as well, as cover for the back four, but barring bad luck with injuries, this squad looks well good enough to secure promotion. Agreed. Of course we could always have been stronger, but I think a young centre-back to come in on loan as cover for Taylor & Coloccini and we're sorted for the title. GKs - Harper, Krul RBs - Simpson, R.Taylor, Geremi LBs - Enrique, Kadar CBs - Taylor, Coloccini, Simpson, Loan CB, Kadar RMs - R.Taylor, Lua Lua, Geremi, Guthrie, Jonas LMs - Jonas, Lovenkrands, Lua Lua CMs - Barton, Butt, Geremi, Guthrie, Nolan, Smith CFs - Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Carroll, Ranger, Smith, Nolan I'd tip that for 90+ points in this division easily. only 77 points to go I know fucking easy eh, at the moment we're on track for 120 points

More like £30m from what I can see, with the massive majority of that being from this summer.

But what wages do those three command, and some others besides? I'd hazard a guess we have the highest wagebill in the Championship. Just as well we also have the best supporters eh! We better get promoted if Ashley doesn't sell us. Actually, we better get promoted anyway. We've probably still got one of the highest wage bills in the Premiership never mind the Championship. I shouldn't laugh, its really not funny EDIT: I bet its not far off, I mean I'm sure most Premiership clubs wage bills will have risen since they were last reported, but I bet we're still easily in the top 10.

oldtype There's no way we can cover the losses this club will make in the Championship season after season by continually selling players without considerably dropping the clubs value. Which isn't going to get Ashley this real price you're suggesting he's after. I agree with your first paragraph about him not being prepared to put anymore money in, I think that's been clear for a while, but not the rest.

17 since Ranger has instantly become a senior player

Where can I download them? You can look at a decent write up on the last few accounts at http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk/ Or pay £1 to download the full accounts at companies house website.

Faye and Taylor were from Premiership clubs. Taylor wasnt signed on the final day of the january transfer window. Yes he was, the signing was announced on the 2nd of Febuary. It was all over the place long before that. Regardless it was confirmed before the window closed so its irrelevant to the initial point. As far as I remember the actual announcement came after the the 5pm deadline. There was a lot of unofficial info about it before that but we've also heard lots of names mentioned today unofficially. Having said that I'm definitely not certain we'll here about any late deals today, hopefully.

Why is it a shit window for Newcastle? - for what its worth, I think we did well to keep certain players and the addition of Lovendranks is very good. Making money and reducing the huge debt is very important and our squad is still capable (although thin) to win this league. Huddersfield before the substitutions was a decent indication that our squad is fucked if we hit an injury crisis. That's been the case for the last five or so years. Why's it so different now? Come on, man. If the squad was thin last year, what is it this year? Thin. But we're competing at a much lower level. We played Matty Pattison in the Premier League. Matty Pattison, man. Matty Pattison. See, in my opinion the level doesn't matter. Fatigue is fatigue. Players need to rest occasionally, and we're not in much of a position to give players time to recuperate. It's been a great start to the season, but the games are going to catch up to us. Of course the level matters, it means that players who weren't good enough as cover in the Premiership are now good enough as cover.

Just hoping we can tread water until January. Already back in denial. I know its fucking shit treading water at the top of the league like

Faye and Taylor were from Premiership clubs. Taylor wasnt signed on the final day of the january transfer window. Yes he was, the signing was announced on the 2nd of Febuary.

The only other thing that we can be happy about is that there are no more players out (that we know of yet). Stupid mistake though - the squad is nowhere near strong enough and now that another botched up window has shut under Ashley we can expect the inevitable injury crisis. Perhaps now we'll find out what has happened the the cash from the summer transfers, and also the money that was due from Milner and Given's sales. For the last time its gone on the fact we make massively less money then we spend on running the club, get it into your head man!

On the plus side we've saved two months of his wages

Faye and Taylor were from Premiership clubs.

I couldn't give two f***s quite frankly. I know, me either. I'm just wondering what changed, we wouldn't have offered him more wages. You mean from when we let him go? I'm sure we only let him go because Ashley wasn't prepared to offer any players new contracts at that stage and Lovenkrands wasn't prepared to sit around on no wages and wait until he was.

He'll rip this league a new arse hole! One of our two first choice striker for us last season for me so its quite a deal to get him back in the Championship. I'm suprised nobody else in this league went for him (or even some Premiership sides as he's easily good enough) maybe they couldn't afford what we offered him?

Even if we sign nobody we also haven't sold the likes of Taylor, Coloccini, Gutierrez and Carroll like a lot of people thought we would.

shit from what i saw last season. You have to be able to be more specific then just "shit". Where did he play for you? Was he in and out of the team or did he play every game? Was he slow?, bad passer?, lazy?, give us a clue

Why do some people come out with such random nonsense?

Surely you can be more specific then that..

Its not that simple though. Stoke had a Championship team on paper and finished 12th. It comes down to good management and team spirit. Two things we didn't have last year and Stoke did. Now we have and we also have the quality, which is why we look like running away with the league. Say there are 150 players in this classification. Then not all of them can play for the 3 teams that get relegated. I take your point about management but that wasnt what i was talking about. I was talking about the gulf in class in the leagues and how some players can therefore fall between the two. But we aren't one of those sides who are full of players too good for the championship but not good enough for the prem. Nolan, Smith, Jonas, Barton, Harper, Guthrie, Taylor and Enrique are proven Premiership players, who we are spoilt and blessed to have in this league. Butt and Geremi are proven but have arguably seen better days. The only players i'd maybe put in that category are Ameobi and Ryan Taylor. Ameobi clearly a class apart in this division but won't get 20 goals in the Premiership. Having said that Taylor still did well for Wigan and Ameobi would probably do well for someone like Burnley or Bolton. So no i don't think we've actually got any players who aren't good enough for the Premiership. Fair enough but if you think we have the nucleus of a side already that will be able to keep in us in the premiership if we get promoted then we disagree. I think Guthrie can improve, Barton is good enough, Jonas should be but is lacking in ccutting edge, Nolan is ok but would not provide the strongest link in a prem team and Smith the same. Enrique is a great defender but gives the ball away even at this level too many times. You're also essentially denying that the gulf in class between the leagues exists. This gulf logically creates this class of player, since individual ability isnt determined by TV revenue but club quality unfortunately is in the long-run. The gap is mostly between the top half and the bottom half of the Premiership and then between the big 4 and the rest. The Championship is a poor division in terms of quality which is why teams coming up need to strengthen. The likes of Bolton, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Hull and last seasons promoted sides etc are in my opinion inferior to what we have. Allardyce kept blackburn up through good management and grinding out results, while we had to put up with the farce with Keegan, JFK and then try and rely on a guy with no coaching experience to get us out of trouble. If we go up with this squad then we clearly would need to add to it and will do. The main thing is a realiable Premiership goalscorer. Had Michael owen done what he was paid for, then we wouldn't have been in any trouble. I disagree that Allardyce kept Blackburn up with good management, he stumbled upon a set of players which fit his long ball blueprint. if he'd been a good manager he'd have made better use of the players he had at Newcastle rather than trying to play the same brand of football with players who weren't suited to it. He still wouldn't have relegated us though. Yeah he would.

Toon Amy, go and have a look at the last set of accounts if you're wondering where the money has gone.

How many players have Portsmouth sold now?