Teasy

I predict that won't happen.

Only two teams around us are playing each other, Stoke and Boro.

Because they're 18 goals worse off. Not only would we need to get thrashed 4 or 5 nil in both games but they'd also have to win both their games 4 or 5 nil!

We'd still be above them because of our goal difference Not that I believe for a second that they'll win there next two games and we'll lose both.

Seven points is a massive gap for West Brom though, they have 8 points from their last 10 games.

Based on what though? At least Kinnear can motivate a team to some degree, Hughton offers absolutely nothing as a manager. Just look at his record, 8 games in total with two points and no wins (Kinnear had picked and prepared to team to play West Brom before his heart problems so I'm not giving that one to Hughton).

We also need a manager who can motivate those players, Hughton can't do it, he's proven that time after time. We either need Kinnear back or someone in his place, and soon.

Probably the form of both teams. Much like our respective forms last season and the season before ect, yet we've always held our own at home against Arsenal.

No he won't.

Or looking at it positively we're joint 13th

Now at 7, IMO we need 11 points out of the next 9 games to stay up. We need at least a point from our next two and four points from Stoke and the Spuds. We then have three home games against very poor opposition that we need to take at least 6 points from, its going to be very difficult. I only hope Kinnear gets back soon and we get no injuries and we might have a chance.

So he gets picked on purely because he's black and he's "thick as shit" because he explains he's a footballer who has money? What's he supposed to say like? Oh yes I'm black and therefore sir I must be guilty of wanting to rob this shop? I hope if it happened to Martins you would be a bit more sympathetic. Errr no. He's thick because after he explains to police that he's a premiership footballer he expects them to take that at face value and suddenly stop treating him as a suspect. ROFL, is that what you think the police should do? A suspect of what?, there was no crime commited. At the end of the day they hand cuffed his friend and attempted to take his crutches away because he looked in a window, do you think THAT is what the police should do? Its not an issue of saying "I'm a Premiership Footballer so I must be innocent" either. He's someone without a crimical record who's done nothing wrong, not only that he's on fucking crutches, he shouldn't be treated like a criminal! If I were him, with his resources, I'd set my lawyers on them and tell them I want nothing less then those officers to lose there jobs.

How childish are those comments, embarrassing

He's still been better then N'Zogbia though IMO.

Being so fed up of the crap served out week in week out I made bets recently with a man u and chelski fan that we'd stay up. I was really confident...then I saw our upcoming fixtures...man u, chelski, liverpool etc etc... TBH, if Nicky Butt is considered your best midfielder, there's not much to say really. I've learnt to just cop it and try to latch and hold onto any small weaknesses that arise in other teams e.g. When Scolari was sacked and when Tottenham were below us. Loved the latter especially. I'd say Barton is considered our best central midfielder. I'd like to think Butt is considered third choice behind Guthrie, but that might be too much to ask of our management.

Piss artistry? Most art is wasted on me anyway.

"We have winnable games left, we'll just have to see if we win them or not" is an unbelievable level of denial? I think you need to get up and splash a bit of water on your face, take a prozac if necessary. You sound as whacked out as the "No way will we go down" crowd

They'll the same winnable games we've not won all season then? Not really, as we haven't played these ones yet. Exactly The fact is we have winnable games left, enough of them to keep us up, we'll just have to wait and see whether or not we take advantage of them.

Not so much bothered where we move up to as long as we're picking up points.

Yes very strange isn't it, he did fuck all here and he's doing fuck all at Wigan. He wouldn't get in my team at the moment even with the injuries. We've sold one of our best players, one decent player and one waste of space. Also all of them asked to leave.

Mines gone from a 5 to a 6. We're in a bad position but I can still see lots of winnable games, especially with players returning. I only wish Hughton wasn't being left in charge as long as he will be, as I don't believe he could motivate a hooker with a hand full of notes.

Nah. Even if you do read it that way, then you can't ignore that he's blaming the owners for causing the fans' reaction and therefore the responsibility would ultimately lie at their door. I have to say that to pick out that rather tenuous interpretation and ignore the rest of what was said suggests that you might possibly have an agenda against the writer, wonder why that might be? You did see the quote from Keegan didn't you, why no accusations sent in his direction? Do I have an agenda? Not trying to be smart or anything but it depends on the interpretation of agenda. I think Ryder is a very poor journalist but I have nothing against him as really the Chronicle has had its day in my opinion. You're right that ultimately blame would lie with Ashley for causing the bad feeling amongst the fans but the way I read the paragraph I pointed out it was saying that the negativity from fans was transferring itself to the pitch which is why we're now in a relegation fight. It may be a short paragraph on a theme not central to his blog but sometimes these small snippets reveal a lot! Reason I posted is that I wanted to see if I read it correctly, nothing more. I ignored the rest as in my opinion the rest isn't worth commenting on and as I said I wouldn't get into a discussion with Ashley sympathisers (which is how the thread would go if I brought up the other issues) as I haven't got a lot of time for them. Just as they probably haven't got a lot of time for my views. None of us are going change our positions. With regards to Keegan’s comment, he may have had a go at the fans in the past when we’ve gone through a sticky spell but I very much doubt he would blame the fans for being in a relegation dog fight. There’s only two reasons for being in a relegation fight; poor players or a poor manager, a mixture of both. You read it right. Lee is blaming the way supporters have reacted to the Mikes’ ‘eventful stint in charge’ for the team’s failings, not how Mike has actually run the club. Selling your best players and appointing a joke manager with a dicky heart has nothing to do with NUFC staring relegation in the face according to Lee. Sold our best players?, like who?

Not guilty, he's my cousin.

To be honest even Duff is a bonus at the moment, I'm iffy on whether Butt is though.