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It helps but does not equal the direct & indirect money you make from being in PL. Yeah I know, that was in response to fading star's post. Basically I was saying that the saving I suggested on wages plus parachute payments could more then make up for the difference in TV money.

There should be a fire sale whether we go down or stay up, with the following names included: Barton Duff Smith Geremi Butt Lets face it, outside of Barton the only way we've got a chance of removing this group of wasters is with a fire sale.. Also add in Viduka, Owen and Gonzales not getting renewed contracts and that's £25 million chopped off the wage bill. It's catch-22. We renew the contracts of players we can't afford, and find ourselves in a potentially critical condition if we don't come straight back up. Or, we let them players go, and have no one left. Then what? But so long as it gets rid of Kinnear. Well I agree but my point was that we shouldn't renew the contracts of any of the players I mentioned whether we stay up or go down. They're a bunch of players who are either past it or so injury prone they never play for us anyway. So losing them saves us massive money but wouldn't really weaken us much.

Two words for you, parachute payments.

There should be a fire sale whether we go down or stay up, with the following names included: Barton Duff Smith Geremi Butt Lets face it, outside of Barton the only way we've got a chance of removing this group of wasters is with a fire sale.. Also add in Viduka, Owen and Gonzales not getting renewed contracts and that's £25 million chopped off the wage bill.

Agree entirely. Steven Taylor in particular was outstanding defensively yesterday continuing on from him fine form he must wonder what he has to do to replace Coloccini must be quite demoralizing seeing such a consistently bad defender get picked ahead of you week in week out. He also should have been sent off for one of the most obvious forearm smashes I've ever seen, were would that have left us?

Well I thought he was surprisingly bad yesterday....... He didn't have a good game no, does that prove he's been consistently dreadful all season?, no it doesn't

Due to poor positioning. Erm and if he's been right next to his post and Nasri had crossed for someone to tap in? Then it would be bad positioning again right?

More pointless over the top player bashing. The guy made some amazing saves and he's being called not up to it because he didn't stop a low hard shot that went right in the bottom corner from 7 or 8 yards out

Harper Taylor Coloccini Bassong Enrique Taylor Nolan Butt Duff Martins Lovenkrands Jonas and Owen out

Spuds 1 nill up

Well we have to depend on other results when our game hasn't happened yet like But yeah its very depressing to have to care what the likes of Stoke, Boro and Blackburn are doing

Cunts, Blackburn level

Ah right, yeah even one point would take us above them at the moment.

Not sure what you mean

Blackburn 0 West Ham 1

So the options are relegation or the threat of relegation over the next 3 years? Why would anyone choose certain relegation over possible relegation?

A minority on here seem to think he's the worst player ever, which I can't wrap my mind around to be honest. You're second paragraph is pretty much spot on. He's had good games where he's looked classy and assured, and others were he's looked unsure of himself, a mixed first season, but hardly cause to hound him out. Having said that I think most fans support him and will give him some time.

I just don't agree that he's out muscled or out paced in most games (he has been too often for my liking, but I'd hope that will improve) nor that he's only had the odd good game and twice as many bad. I didn't say he's had a good season, but there's a big gap between not having a good season/not looking worth £10 million and being absolutely shocking or the worst player in the team. Is there any point in arguing with his examples?, a lot of them are totally subjective, I could come out with a totally different opinion on who was to blame but for some reason I just don't see it making any difference, do you? Has there been a worst player?, are you serious? Ameobi?, Nicky Butt, Geremi, should I go on?

Two words - Leeds United, it could happen to us. As in bankruptcy?, no it couldn't. Leeds had large debts and nobody to help pay them, our only debts are now held by the owner of the club as an interest free loan.

Its not just a case of not being able to afford our debt repayments. They were costing us 8 million pounds a year, but we were losing 35 million a year! You can restructure the debts all you like but its not going to have much impact when you're losing £27 million a year before repaying current debts. At the end of the day our losses were spiraling out of control. The biggest cause as far as I can see is the wage bill which has been allowed to reach an absolutely disgusting level (twice what it should be really) despite poor performances on the pitch. If our wage bill was in control our debt repayments would have been easily affordable with plenty of cash left over for transfers.

Nonsense he has been consistently dreadful all season I've heard people continuously excuse him despite him costing our team what is a quite staggering amount of goals. Surely his performance against Liverpool still sticks in people's minds no...? that 1 v 5 lost was unbearable I've been disgusted by performances at St James Park before but never have I been more disgusted at such a gutless and dismal performance in a Black and White shirt before as Coloccini put in that day at fault for the 2nd goal, 3rd and for the 4th he should of been hurled off for alone. Quite staggering really the amount of goals he has cost us this season here just few off of that long list - - Stoke Home 1st goal at fault turned and out paced by Ricardo Fuller... Bolton Away at fault for the only goal failed to spot the danger and come across to defend the ball in left Gardner completely free... Sunderland Home 1st goal far to deep then decided to try and play Cisse offside clueless idiot... West Brom Home at fault for 1st goal pulled to pieces by Ismeal Miller... Everton Away failed to mark his zone on the areal ball to let Falliani free to score... Fulham Away at fault for the second goal his reckless lunging tackle on Johnson gave away a easily preventable penalty... West Ham Away 1st goal at fault completely lost Craig Bellamy run I'll let him off the 2nd although arguably his fault also.. Blackburn Home dreadful marking on Santa Cruz for the second headed goal... Hull City Home at fault second goal turned by Marlon bloody King... Manchester United Home at fault for 1st goal far too tight on Wayne Rooney... West Ham Away at fault for third goal cowardly turned his back on Di Michele shot... and that isn't even all of them.................. For me his performances away at Chelsea, Boro and Manchester United were possible his only decent or good (if your kind) performances all season and at £10 million that's not good enough. Quite rightly ousted from the Argentinian National Squad in recent months... Cannot stand the bloke.. You're taking the piss on that Bolton one surely, that all came from Taylor and Butt not tracking Gardner's run. Don't bother mate, there's a minority on here who believe anything and everything is Coloccini's fault. He costs us goals every time he fails to brilliantly stop someone from scoring on his own don't you know

Its amazing what a few people on here say about Coloccini like, it really is. He's had his poor games, and he's had his good games but he's never been shocking! Bramble and Boumsong were shocking, they actually gave teams numerous free goals. At worst Coloccini has not prevented goals he should have done better with, but he never gifts goals to the other team. Also at his best he looks like a really classy defender. He's had an inconsistent first season, but he's been pretty solid overall. Either way some people need to stop with the goldfish like memories, remember our past defenders and get some perspective for fuck sake!

What the f***? Yep, I can't stand him anymore. I tryed to defend him after the first match (even because of the 11 millions we paid for him...), but now it's more than enough. He's a disaster, and he's contributing pretty much to our poor displaying. I'd rather like to see an Academy kid in his place, hoping that someone's going to take him off our squad next summer. Are you really serious?, really? His first match for us was against Manure and he did pretty well. Since then he's had some very good games and some slightly poor games but to say he's been a disaster is just bloody mental I'm really finding it hard to take your comments seriously.

What the fuck?

How do you know we wouldn't have been worse in those games without him? The only games we've performed remotely well under Hughton are the ones where the players need no motivation (Manure for instance). For the rest of the time we've looked totally uninterested, something that I couldn't say under Kinnear. West Brom was hardly a win for Hughton either, Kinnear's health problem only happened hours before the match. So when Hughton does something you agree with it was his idea but when he does something wrong it must have been Kinnear's idea?..