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Yeah terrible eh, we should have made sure it ended 2:0... Should be fucking 2:2, more bollocks from referee's/linemen! And before people say they should be well up, they missed those chances or we stopped them either way, quite different from the linesman stepping in and taking away a goal.

Fucking hell Kinnear must be making some late decisions here, no team news with the match starting in 40 minutes..

Apparently Enrique starts, not confirmed yet though.

He left Duff out for N'Zogbia.. Ameobi didn't start either ahead of Martins or Owen. Its just untrue to say that he's got favourites that he'll play no matter what.

So they're saying Butt and Ameobi will leave? Fantastic!

You've pulled sarcasm off much better than most on here. Has to be sarcasm like, there's no way in hell Reina's as good as Given!

Can Gonzalez play at left back? Well at least Owen and Ameobi are fit anyway.

Going for the ball means fuck all, apart from the difference between a yellow or red card perhaps, certainly makes no difference to a pen.

Nice of MOTD to completely ignore the terrible decisions in that game like..

Its not as if Kinnear has that many options in there, IMO when Barton comes back Butt won't be starting games.

Heskey was offside The only foul that occured was outside the box Also seem to remember there was a player covering (though I'll have to check replays) But yeah other then those glaring mistakes it was a great decision

Put in a lot of effort and got back to make some key challanges. One in particular that kept us in the game when that cunt Taylor was one on one with Given.

What the fuck is Ryan Taylor? He seems to only exist to score goals against us. I'm really beginning to hate the little twat.

I can't believe anyone would wonder why the Spuds get so much piss taking from our fans, isn't it obvious? Football fans hardly need much ammunition to take the piss, but the Spuds just set themselves up for it.

Apparently West Ham want £15 million for Bellamy. If anyone pays that I might stop watching Football. He's an excellent player, but he only plays one game in every three on average.

No they won't.

How the fuck can he have the cheek to try to sell West Ham for £250 million? Its worth about minus £50 million!

The trouble with that is if one of them does manage to get it over the bar, they'll insist on having a clause in their contract that states scoring a brace against Stoke at home will automatically require all the club's fans to instantly declare them to be the best striker in the land since sliced bread. Who the fuck is this Sliced Bread you're talking about?

Isn't he more likely to get into the England squad being a top four squad player than he is playing regularly for us and having games where he is anonymous because the service he needs isn't there? Of course it isn't, Capello isn't going to pick a striker that isn't even a regular for their club. Staying fit and continuing to score goals regularly for us will get him into the England side.

We had an extremely easy start, following that draw at Derby we got 2 points from our next 11 games which included the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Manure (twice), Arsenal and Aston Villa. If we only get two points from our next 11 games this season I'll eat shit.

Depends on who we could replace him with. There are players we could bring in with the extra money freed up from Owen's contract but would be they be better at getting goals and would they come? We need to massively invest if he does go. I doubt we'll bring someone in who's as good a striker as Owen when fit, but what makes it a bit easier is the fact that Owen plays so few games. When he can't play we have to play the likes of Ameobi. Its like having a striker who's great one week and shit the next, because one week he's Michael Owen and the next he's Ameobi If we could replace Owen with a very good striker, not top class like Owen but very good in his own right, who is consistently fit then I'd be very happy with that. We could get a settled front two for once.

Am I the only one who really wouldn't be so gutted if he ran out his contract and left? He's a class striker, but he's so injury prone and by the time he starts next season he'll be a few months away from 30. Meanwhile he takes up enough wages to pay a lot of players two or three times over. I mean I'd like him to stay on say £80,000 a week, simply because his quality is hard to replace. But if he does leave I'd look at the positives, along with Viduka that's that's almost £10 million a year chopped off the wage bill. Which gives us a lot of head room in wages to bring in quite a few new players.

Yes he's made some terrible substitutions. However not only did he realise he made mistakes but he seems to have learned from them. Also yeah Taylor and Duff were only dropped when they got injured (Taylor was playing ok anyway so that's fair enough in his case), but the most important thing is he didn't put them back into the team when fit, Roeder would have.

How does that break down 35 ish for Robinho, Zabaleta, Kompany, that Brazilian full back, I can't think of many more being honest. Either way he should be doing further. Its ironic really, the type of manager City need is someone with vast European knowledge and contacts with an FM-Tastic contacts book. What they have is a young english manager with little knowledge outside of his own back pocket. You're forgetting two pretty expensive signings in Jo and Wright-Phillips, also Hughes is Welsh.

Roeders time here tells us absolutely nothing about Kinnear. At the time I said we shouldn't take Roeder on full time, and a lot of people said the same. We'd done well with him as manager but we'd done so through luck more then anything else. He'd picked poor sides and used poor tactics and only really did well because he was forced into better team selections through injuries. Just because Kinnear has come in as a caretaker boss like Roeder that doesn't mean they're anything alike. Kinnear has picked pretty good sides, been willing to drop players when they're not doing the job and willing to stick with lesser name players when they are. He might have made a couple of stupid tactical mistakes but he even seems to have learned from them, he's done geniunely well here despite no having much luck IMO. What's Hughes done to make himself so attractive as a potential manager? He did well at Blackburn, but currently has a Man City team who were comfotable last season (and have only added to the squad since) in the bottom three. What makes you think he's anything but a one hit wonder or any better then Kinnear? Because he's a hyped up name and Joe is "Joke In Here"? I wonder how much of a Joke it is that we were second bottom when he arrived and now we're 12th. I don't neccesarily think he should get the job on a more permenant basis at this point. But I don't think he deserves to be dismissed as another Roeder either, and he'd certainly be ahead of Mark Hughes if I was choosing our next manager.