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You've seen enough in two games aginst Arsenal away and Bolton with a thread bare team to know that we'll get relegated? Did you expect us to beat Arsenal? Also we drew against Bolton so what are you on about saying "not even drawing"?..

42 points to be 'relatively safe'? That points total has only been required to stay up once in Premiership history, the majority of the time its between 34 and 38 points. You talk about us having only 27 points from 23 games, but the likes of Sunderland, Wigan and Brum (fighting it out not to fall into that last relegation place) have only 20 points from 23 games, so what's going to make them get another 20 or so from there last 15 games?? Even Boro one place below us only have 22 points.. Look, so far we've played a side with 11 men behind the ball (which was made even harder with having to have Ameobi up front and Rozehnal in midfield) and arguably the best team in the league away. You surely can't have expected anything against Arsenal, so I suppose this is all down to only drawing against Bolton in Keegans first game after a few days in charge eh? Lets just wait until we play the likes of Boro before panicking.. We need 11 more points to stay up IMO.

Manure fans singing 'Cheer up Kevin Keegan' mackems.gif Which decade do they think they're in

They're doing well at the moment, nothing more, you make it sound like they're Arsenal, Manure or Chelsea FFS. at least they are on track. But we aren't on track after two games under Keegan, one of which was against Arsenal at the Emirates.. How many games has Ramos had at Spurs? Common man stop being silly here. Yap. Have to say i may be silly here. Just that i am a bit disillusioned and depressed these days...seeing we are still not creating chances, no potential signings esp Woody rejects us while Spurs (hate them, sorry cos i always see them as our nearest rivals in the league to gain ground on the top half of the table) are gaining ground and momentum. really hope kk can turn us around. I know what you mean. I hate Spurs too, though mostly because of how deluded there fans are more then anything else. But as far as I can see we've already improved under Keegan simply because the Football is already far better and as we get past teams like Manure, Arsenal and on to the likes of Fulham, Boro and Sunderland I'm confident of picking up points. Also we did create chances against Arsenal.

I've heard plenty of stories of Woodgates stupidity but I think this is even worse then the rest. Is this really how this man decides his future? Ah well never mind, I was never that bothered about signing him, he would have been a very good addition if he could get bac to his best, but in the end its not a priority position and the price is over the odds considering the price.

They're doing well at the moment, nothing more, you make it sound like they're Arsenal, Manure or Chelsea FFS. at least they are on track. But we aren't on track after two games under Keegan, one of which was against Arsenal at the Emirates.. How many games has Ramos had at Spurs? Common man stop being silly here.

They already have a better team than us. The new personnel is the Manager while we get an obviously romantic (but wrong) appointment in KK. Really depressed...watching Spurs giving a good game aga Man U (something that I do not think we can do it against teams like that) Where you watching the Arsenal game yesterday? We gave Arsenal just as much of a good game in the first half, wait until the end of the game at least

They're doing well at the moment, nothing more, you make it sound like they're Arsenal, Manure or Chelsea FFS.

Which form table are you referring to? The one I posted on the previous page http://www.footballanorak.com/FA-Barclaycard-Premiership-Form-Guide-0.html Based on the last 6 games, isn't that quite a random number to base it on?? Ok, another random number. Last 14 games: Won = 2 Lost = 8 Drawn = 4 Is that better? Our form is s****. How can you even argue with that?? But on that form we'd finish above all the teams currently below us

Which form table are you referring to? The one I posted on the previous page http://www.footballanorak.com/FA-Barclaycard-Premiership-Form-Guide-0.html Based on the last 6 games, isn't that quite a random number to base it on??

Don't be so stupid.. Nobody really cares about Geremi and you know it, the players people think will improve us from the African Nations are Beye, Faye and Martins, which they will do. Also nobody's mentioned top half, we just aren't silly enough to believe we're going to get relegated.

Which form table are you referring to?

You're correct of course that some of the teams below us have been gaining on us in the last 10 games, but not enough of them and none of them enough to show they'll finish above us. Here's the points gained for the bottom 9 teams in the last 10 games (plus projected points total based on those points): Derby - 1 points (9) Fulham - 3 points (20) Newcastle - 9 points (41) Birmingham - 9 points (34) Reading - 9 points (36) Sunderland - 10 points (35) Boro - 12 points (40) Wigan - 12 points (38) Bolton - 13 points (41) For us to have any problem Brum, Reading, Sunderland, Boro, Wigan and Bolton are all going to have to improve on there points per game average over the next 15 games and we have to get worse, is that likely? I realise we have some difficult teams coming up, but we now have the plus point of not being managed by Allardyce Also is it really likely that none of those other teams have harder games coming up then they had in the previous 10 games?, that's extremely unlikely IMO.

Do you think the failure to push on is due to the change of manager? Newcastle had Allardyce, a confirmed 4-5-1 man, boring tactically, long ball, solid defensively. So SA started to buy the type of players he needed for his system. Allardyce gets sacked, KK comes in, a manager who couldn't be more at the opposite of the managerial spectrum, 4-4-2, attacking football, we'll score more than you will. KK's problem is that he hasn't got many of the type of player he needs to play the style he wants to. No, No and No, first of all Allardyce's team was not solid defensively. Second we have players far better suited to Keegan's way of playing then Allardyce, and finally had Allardyce stayed we would be in far more danger of relegation. The failure this season is down to Allardyce, changing manager has possibly saved us. I genuinely believe that had he stayed there was a chance of relegation, his team didn't look capable of beating anyone without spades of luck, even the worst in the league. As for the original poster, sorry man but you've lost your mind. Three wins would keep us up and we have Fulham, Boro, Sunderland, Reading and Blackburn at all home, we also have some mid table teams to play away who we can nick points from.

That would be a great way to lose Keegan before he's even begun, I seriously doubt it.

If this happens I wonder exactly what the Spuds fans will say? Earlier he was a s*** mercenery with no interest in Football, known to be a money grabber and not fit to tie Dawsons shit laces No doubt now history will be re-written as Woodgate being a great lad who is not interested in money and is happy being paid £3.50 a week if it means playing for the mighty Spuds. Oh and also he'll now be the second best defender in the country, second to the best defender of all time, Ledley King

There would be no point in doing that at all, Spuds point blank refuse to pay over £45,000 a week to anyone.

Given Carr Taylor Cacapa Enrique Milner Butt Zog Duff Owen Smith Hopefully that's the formation, either that or switch Duff and Zog.

As I said he's not particularly fast running with the ball, he also has the strange problem of almost never making good runs in behind the defence. So yeah its not really obvious, the only time you can see his speed is when he chases the ball down, which is also something he doesn't do enough of..

no doubt some ITK will claim we are paying 7m cash upfront and they were offering £3.50p upfront and the rest based on how many times he breaths in the next 10 years Both ridiculous and shortsighted comments. Spurs have a rigid wage structure - we all know that. If Spurs are paying 8M transfer fee, and we are paying 7M transfer fee, yet Spurs are paying 50k per week wage, and we match Woodgate's current pay 70k per week - within a year our expenditure on Woodgate would have matched Spurs, and after a year we would start paying 20k more per week than Spurs. What is there to laugh at Spurs if we are getting Woodgate on the basis of paying more money? We're paying him what he gets at Boro from what I have seen, which is £59k.

He probably means quickest on the ball. Martins is very fast when running without the ball, but he hasn't got the control to run particularly fast with it.

Mansfield off the bar twice! EDIT: Ah second one was a save actually

I considered changing my post to "Are you being serious?", but thought, fuck it I want to say this anyway wether he is or isn't

To be fair we are obviously paying him twice as much as they were willing to. Why else would he come here? More charasmatic manager?, billionaire owner?, plus he's a north east lad who doesn't think London is some kind of wonderland.. I'd say those are all possible reasons as well. Maybe he also thinks that, shock horror, Spurs aren't as amazing as the London hacks would have us believe? They've done well over the last few years, but have shown that the clubs obvious limitations makes it almost impossible to kick on and move into the top four. What must Woodgate have thought when they offered him as much as they could and it didn't even match his Boro wages?

Err, its just a question davey boy.. answer it, don't answer it, its that easy I genuinly just wondered if anyone has looked at the regulations on this?