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And you always make out you're so hard hearted about players coming and going from the club

@KaKa The quoted post (plus others following it in the thread) pretty much sums up the situation with PSR. We should have some room for manoeuvre but it's not just a case of heavy losses from 3 years ago dropping off unfortunately.

Always had a soft spot for Plymouth since our Hughton season. Never seen a club be so gracious while getting relegated by a team getting promoted. Also, good to build footballing relationships.

Murphy has a spectacular collection of them though. Was it the Arsenal home game in 21-22 where he smacked one off a post from 25 yards and was leaping up and down in frustration afterwards? He had an amazing post to goal ratio for a few months. I always thought it kind of encapsulated him as a player. Had the brains and technique to make the shot as difficult for the goalkeeper as possible but would push it too far making the effort (almost) pointless. But if he could get a grip on that then you'd have something special.

Definitely Man City. From interviews it sounds like he himself was struggling to accept his future wasn't as a midfielder around this time.

Second guessing has always been his problem. He's an intelligent lad, but historically hasn't been intelligent enough to stop thinking, if you see what I mean. But we aren't seeing any of his dithering now, he pretty much knows what to do before he's even received the ball nowadays, which lets the quality of his technique shine through.

Think he's very much been focused on to performing a set range of actions. An extensive range, though, so he's no one trick pony. Murphy deserves huge credit for this run he's on. It's his dedication that's getting him here. Makes you wonder what he could've done in his career if he'd been Howe'd a few years earlier.

It is. We get as many points here as we do at Old Trafford. Would be extremely disappointed with anything other than a win. But confident we'll get it.

Smash PSR. It's making football less desirable.

Attention those who say it can't be reversed. Do they have English refs in Norway or is it just a shit system?

Fingers crossed. If we want to talk about a youth player that we've mishandled over the past two years, this is the one.

You're mixing up amortisation and PSR calculations Amortisation relates to transfer fees, wages are just wages. Those two separate things get added together when doing the PSR calculation.

Plus, I don't think this one should be seen as a developmental loan, from our perspective. Think it's more about him getting a career after us.

Overall, I agree. Smash PSR. Think I might start finishing all my posts with this sentiment, Cato-style.

Sounds like he's got major attitude problems according to those QPR fans. I don't think talent has ever been the problem with him...

The funny thing is if he's doing brilliant job, that will potentially involve spending very little money on a small amount of untested unknowns. Which will piss everyone off.

He said it, but I think we all assumed that was him being diplomatic

Yeah, same. I've always been very protective of him re: people assuming things like this are all his fault for that reason, but you can't deny it looks dodgy. But he must have cycled through loads of past it players and considered long term finances a ton as he took Bournemouth up the ranks.

Targett is pretty perfect for us if he ever resolves his fitness issues. That 'if' is ludicrous, though.

Yeah, that's all perfectly logical. It's a high agency thing for him/us to do, to be fair. Rather than just hanging around while the situation rots. Not exactly backing himself to overcome the situation, mind, if true.

I agree more with Kaka and IanW. But we don't know what the views are behind the scenes. Don't even know if Kelly is entertaining all this if course, that's just a guess. Just continue to find this whole situation surprising. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind... Might be Mitchell doing some brilliant work to boost our PSR.

Juventus more than Fenerbahce obviously, but if a player is talking to possibly multiple suitors 6 months after joining a club - presumably on a major deal - to be managed by someone he says he has a lot of respect for, it's unusual. It isn't like this is some starlet who has Real Madrid sniffing because they've taken the league by storm after joining us from Fleetwood in the summer. The assumption seems to be that if anything we're quietly offering him around, but maybe it's the other way?

Traditionally this is around the time someone says clubs only make an approach once reps from the player have confirmed he's keen on the move. So... Could that be the case with Kelly? Would be interesting to hear what he makes of all this.

Yeah, I don't know why the fatigue thing is so contentious. Either they were or they weren't, it doesn't really matter whether they 'should' have been tired. Then we can debate if the reasons for it are legitimate or not.

Yes, but who is doing this? I'll give you Stifler, and I'll bet there's some entertainers on Twitter doing it. But who else?