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I’m not sure it’s that simple. There are people who find the celebration of an institution that has, at the very least, been related to some pretty grotesque stuff (colonialism? Mass impoverishment?) fundamentally disrespectful. There are others who then find people who think that disrespectful. I would observe the silence but wouldn’t sing the anthem. I was raised not to as a child and I agree with my parents’ reasoning in teaching me not to. I’m certainly not singing it for Charles, who (if you followed the Panama papers leaks) is, at best, quite disingenuous when he talks about serving his subjects with love and devotion. 5 days after he said that he made his home staff redundant. This isn’t to pick a fight, but I hope I’m conveying that “be quiet and respect the moment” isn’t a stance that works for everyone. I don’t believe the royal family respect me so I don’t return the favour.

I understand that sentiment and argument, but I think there’s room to also argue that there are very few situations where “subjects” are allowed near the family to actually make their views of them known; I also think doing so in that scenario was an act of courage given that he wasn’t likely to get that “audience” with media attention. I think beating him and throwing him on the floor and arresting him was absurd, although I do concede your time and place argument has merit. I think it’s a difficult nuance - it was simultaneously right and wrong, and necessary and unnecessary, which makes it hard. This is not meant as a criticism, it’s a genuine question from someone who feels no connection to them at all: what is about them that promotes strong feelings of national pride in you?

@Whitley magdo you acknowledge that Andrew is a child sex offender?

This so many times - there are so many things that have been cancelled which I really don’t think she would have wanted to be; not least enjoyment of sporting events and creation of atmosphere. @Richhas a point though, as usual this has just split society into arguing so they couldn’t really win. Those of WF I’ve met aren’t idiots or kneejerk merchants; sure it’s a reasoned decision. With that said I personally think it’s the wrong one (but I’ve put fuck all into it like they have, so there).

Whoever said it might be time to think about selling Wilson… I’m starting to land there too. Love him but fundamentally broken (although knowing our luck we’d sell and he’d play 5 straight seasons without problem for somebody odious like Everton).

I wouldn’t, because you’d have to be him, and therefore you’d be the cuntiest of all the cunts.

He’s not threatening to gouge your eyes out…

Christ man he’s allowed to disagree with you.

I am happy to tell you that, with my lawyer’s qualification in hand, they are indeed a bunch of cunts.

My life has been immeasurably better since I stopped reading, watching and listening to British media. Total sensationalist wank or attempts at social control. Do yourselves a favour and choose ignorance like me. Bonus is that it helps with the Saudi ownership.

He’s not a lone striker - I think he needs a partner with him up front, or at least wide forwards who will cross more than they get to the byline and cut back. More and more I think he was just the available body when they needed an available body. His future with us is very limited now you’d think.

It’s so boring when you can predict it to a tee.

Weirdly again felt like 2 points dropped by the end. I’m not sure enough has been made of the penalty we didn’t get - it was an undeniable foul in the box. Hit the bar, willock sitter… I don’t feel like Wolves really cut us open much. Circumstances of injury means it’s another good point. Longstaff and Willock look distinctly second best to Bruno and Shelvey for me.

I find a useful barometer in these situations is to ask “would he get games in another premier league side”? I could see him playing for Bournemouth, maybe Southampton… but not like a key player. I’ve just never seen much from him to suggest that this is his level. Like he appears ahead of Ritchie in the pecking order but Ritchie has scored and assisted multiple goals in the PL, Murphy has a few over 3-4 seasons.

Yup I’m not sure what it is either. My sense is that they were only all in on Botman and Ekitike, and those 2 plus Targett and pope would have been it, maybe another. I think the “plan” that we are seeing snippets of is them working out what to do instead of Ekitike. I don’t share your frustrations re: striker. It’s a very hard sell and a very narrow corridor - someone super talented who we can develop but can already contribute as a Wilson replacement or as someone else across a front 3. There aren’t that many players good enough and willing to accept those terms so I think we are seeing them try different solutions. I do share your frustrations re: winger or attacking midfielder. That’s been plain as day since last season. Perhaps they know Wilson is a crock so they want to get the striker sorted first as they see that as more immediately necessary (as we have lots of wingers and midfielders, but barely any strikers). I don’t think it’s a like “one transfer at a time” - I think it’s more like let’s see what we have left after buying the striker, which we think is the priority, and then choose the winger / AM accordingly. That’s also why I reckon the Paqeutá links resurfaced, because perhaps Pedro leaves us enough budget. It’s all speculation. Clearly a lot of thought and analysis goes into your posts and they’re interesting I think.

Do you concede that you don’t know what the plan is?

I’m sure Garnacho is a steak house

Reading this and a number of other transfer threads makes me worry about the impact of a football club on people’s lives.

Oh fair enough. Yeh certainly being overused in this context, those 3 signings I was all very whelmed about.

Why?

So your analysis is an oxymoron? Nice work Tobes

Don’t think he’s a lemon. This one is all about psychology. He needs a very particular type of manager and situation to succeed I reckon, and had it at Spurs. There will be managers who can extract it, but his move from spurs was crucial. Everton was an awful option for him - I think managers like Howe/Potter/Frank would be his right kind of landing spot. A manager with empathy and great people skills. If he was on a free or thereabouts I’d pounce like a randy puma. No expectation of playing immediately but a few months to sort his head out.

Understatement. His father is an all-time cunt.

Did Murphy offer more?

Done a lot more as a Newcastle player than Murphy.