Beren

I'm not going to cape for the guy but I can only assume he is/was taking the long-view, even if the current crop can't deliver it. He poured everything into the Europa, knowing he couldn't compete domestically. And in parts, they played okay (relative to their capability) through the competition from what I saw. Even yesterday, as poor as they were, a draw wouldn't have been an unfair result I thought. If the spine of his long-term vision was intended to change this summer, I think maybe he thought there was limited value to gutting it out in the PL week-in week-out - while safe from relegation. What's the difference between 11th and 17th for them, really? Now I don't agree with that view, and I think culture change is important and needs to start somewhere. He's definitely not above criticism, and he seems to be getting a fair bit. Some he deserves IMO. I felt like he began to "get it" towards the end of the season, but maybe too late. Anyway, he doesn't seem unlikable to me (yet!) and they hired him for a reason. Reckon they will give him at least a window or two to put his stamp on the club.

Amorim has been dealt a really shoddy hand. There's virtually no steel in the squad. Maguire for all his many faults at least showed commitment. Fernandes was super disappointing yesterday. Casemiro tried, but he's on his last legs. Less said about Rasmus the better. (Not intended to rub salt in the wounds, Frog).

The two who miss out this weekend will be justifiably seething

Completely. Kaka posting "COYS" ffs.

Bit sickening we're being associated with this.

I think as a wider footballing community we just have to agree, across all party lines and rivalries, this trophy doesn't count.

Rasmus needs to go back In The Shadows.

I was probably one of them. I was wrong. Added prestige and quality to it.

I really thought a high-stakes shit-off would feel more fun than this. It's just sad.

Third or fourth unpressured giveaway from Fernandes. One lead to the goal conceded.

This tournament is really being sullied by this. It's abysmal. Although I guess the beginning of the end was when they stopped CL dropouts entering into it.

Fernandes has been unusually shite and sloppy so far.

Can't stand Ange. Amorim has at least shown contrition and self-loathing for what he's put out. Man Utd by extension to me have been humbled. If Ange wins and he gives to the big'un with his second season nonsense, it will be unbearable.

Diallo picking the ball up too deep.

The quality is so much poorer than I thought it'd be. Like playground football with a tennis ball

Man Utd look like the ones who haven't been completely phoning it in for the last few weeks, so far.

They'll fudge it to let them in.

Really hoping - and part expecting- Vince McMahon to bowl up before kick-off and announce this is an "I Quit" match for Ruben and Ange, with Earl Hebner refereeing.

The coverage will disproportionately cover the glorious season of the European-trophy-winning/Champions-League-qualifying club, but like a lot of things in life you just have to take what good there is to get from it.

Quite looking forward to the circus of the Europa League final now. It's going to be box office one way or another

That's a class foundation to have going into the weekend: Europa minimum unless Everton batter is

Going to be a bloody long week on the forum People catastrophising colliding with people with impossible confidence, and few inbetween.

Wondering what could have been if we had Osula on first half when we were really on top.

Really good second half from Arsenal tbf to manage the game. Didn't have the horses today. Move on.