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Crap that's Pardew setting the scene for the sale! I guess second best scenario is to slaughter whoever wants him and get a good replacement and use the surplus cash to strengthen the squad even more

can't see the injury on the net...any links?

The part in bold is what he is saying, nobody knows whether he actually knows how much he has. Besides saying something like "I know how much I have but am not telling anyone" comes across as being smug and would still be an indication that we have money to splash. Given that most other clubs already probably assume we have the 35M to spend, Pardew's quote is the best way to create some doubt in the selling clubs' minds of how much we have. Of course at this point we're all just speculating, the proof will be in the pudding come Sept 1st.

No it isn't. We shall see come 1st Sept Even if he is sold come 1st Sept, that does not back your claim that it is obvious at this point of time that he's gone

I don't think anyone really classes him as worth £35m, the fee was just a result of the crazy Torres transfer. Oh quite a few on this very thread said that he was worth more than 35M because he is one of the best strikers in the world....bunch of clowns!

Not too happy with that statment. One or two big players my ass! We need at least 3 first team players and a couple more for the squad I see a difference between "big" players and "first team" players. Sure fair enough, but it is unlikely that those "young players" are gonna be ready for the first team which leaves the "one or two big players" as the first team additions. If you add up his statement, it looks like he is targetting betwwen 2-4 players. Bottom line is with a first team that depends too much on one or two players to have any attacking impetus and a threadbare squad, that is clearly insufficient.

Not too happy with that statment. One or two big players my ass! We need at least 3 first team players and a couple more for the squad

Pinching the ball play??

I think you exaggerate the "percentage player" part. Sure he is not gonna hit all those crossess and shots perfectly and some will inevitably hit the first person but what matters is that in a game, percentage or no percentage, he would get at least a few good deadly crosses in (that is just begging to be put in) and a few shots on target. Goals win you games so that's what matters in the end, everythig else is mostly secondary. If all his crossess and shots were good, then he'd be f***ing better than Messi, you're asking for a player that would easily create like 100 assists per season!

That is not a very fair statement, is devoid of circumstances which is why I said you were spouting rubbish. Firstly you can easily add HBA to that list (the fact that he was injured is nobody's fault except the c*** De Jong). We were only left with that pile of s*** because we did not replace Carroll in January 2011 which is why I said last Jan was a bad transfer window. Otherwise for a team that just got promoted (and is therefore not the most attractive for top players), having HBA, Carroll, Best, Ameobi, Ranger, Lovenkrads is not too bad. In fact immediately pre Ashley (post Shearer of course) which of our strikers would you categorized as really good? Martins at a stretch...who else? Unless you rate the likes of Owen, Luque and Viduka highly (which would again strengthen the rubbish claim I made), as of January 2011, we had quite a good bunch of strikers/attacking players especially for a team just newly promoted. we also didnt replace ben arfa in january, even with a loan. it's bad management anyway you look at it, but continue to make excuses for them all the same. Are you even reading? What excuses...I already said very early on (on Feb 1 actually) that January was a bad transfer window. The debate has moved on to discuss the other transfer windows. Try to focus, it's really not that difficult. there you go, i've highlighted the bit that is one MASSIVE excuse for how bad our january window was. funnily enough you've mentioned ben arfa being injured and then gone on to say we were 'only left with that pile of s*** because we didnt replace caroll' well, thats bollocks isnt it. as i've said, we failed to replace ben arfa too, even with a loan signing. does the fact that we needed strikers BEFORE we even sold carroll not register with you at all? excuses, excuses, excuses. its always 'well yeah it was a bad window BUT this, BUT that'. but nothing mate, we were severely under staffed in the playing department and they gambled, again. this time it paid off. they've done it before and they'll do it again, and when they do you'll have an excuse for it and be waiting til the next window to see what happens. now say something else patronising, by the way when you said circumstances, didnt you mean context? Look mate I'm really not sure why you find it so difficult to understand. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES FOR THE JANUARY TRANSFER WINDOW - DO YOU GET THAT? I said that as much on Feb 1, 2011. The point I was making when I listed HBA, Carroll...etc is that we had decent transfer windows before January (here's a hint: since I added Carroll's name to that list I can't be referring to the post January transfer window could I?). For a newly promoted team to have those players BEFORE the January transfer window was a refelction that we did reasonably well in the previous transfer window (Getting HBA, Tiote can only be described as excellent). Yes HBA got injured and we didn't replace him in January, that goes back to the point that we had a bad January but that's not the debate is it? I have not come across anyone on this forum defending the January transfer window. The debate is whether January was an exception to the rule and why the argument that "those who are now saying let's see what happens in the summer will say the same thing come September 1" is just bollocks or is the January transfer window representative of our other transfer windows. Like I said try and focus on what is being debated. Even Colocho is doing better than you which really says it all

That is not a very fair statement, is devoid of circumstances which is why I said you were spouting rubbish. Firstly you can easily add HBA to that list (the fact that he was injured is nobody's fault except the c*** De Jong). We were only left with that pile of s*** because we did not replace Carroll in January 2011 which is why I said last Jan was a bad transfer window. Otherwise for a team that just got promoted (and is therefore not the most attractive for top players), having HBA, Carroll, Best, Ameobi, Ranger, Lovenkrads is not too bad. In fact immediately pre Ashley (post Shearer of course) which of our strikers would you categorized as really good? Martins at a stretch...who else? Unless you rate the likes of Owen, Luque and Viduka highly (which would again strengthen the rubbish claim I made), as of January 2011, we had quite a good bunch of strikers/attacking players especially for a team just newly promoted. we also didnt replace ben arfa in january, even with a loan. it's bad management anyway you look at it, but continue to make excuses for them all the same. Are you even reading? What excuses...I already said very early on (on Feb 1 actually) that January was a bad transfer window. The debate has moved on to discuss the other transfer windows. Try to focus, it's really not that difficult.

That is not a very fair statement, is devoid of circumstances which is why I said you were spouting rubbish. Firstly you can easily add HBA to that list (the fact that he was injured is nobody's fault except the c*** De Jong). We were only left with that pile of s*** because HBA was out long term and we did not replace Carroll in January 2011 which is why I said last Jan was a bad transfer window. Otherwise for a team that just got promoted (and is therefore not the most attractive for top players), having HBA, Carroll, Best, Ameobi, Ranger, Lovenkrads is not too bad. In fact immediately pre Ashley (post Shearer of course) which of our strikers would you categorized as really good? Martins at a stretch...who else? Unless you rate the likes of Owen, Luque and Viduka highly (which would again strengthen the rubbish claim I made), as of January 2011, we had quite a good bunch of strikers/attacking players especially for a team just newly promoted.

it's so tragically inevitable that on 1st september this will all be repeating itself, i.e. let's see what happens in january - been the same since the moment ashley bought the club Rubbish. Agreed Jonny, I have no idea why people keep on repeating this eventhough they have absolutely nothing to back up their claim, it's all speculation nonsense solely based on the last Jan transfer window and ignoring all the others which imo we've not done too badly. bullshit right back at you both under ashley how many windows have we come out of saying "we did well there"? the first one under allardyce i'd suggest, and maybe the colo/jonas one but imo we've stood still or gone backwards in every other window squad-wise would like to elaborate on which transfer window (aside from last Jan's) you think we've gone backwards (bearing in mind that very few clubs go for mega deals in January)?

Ginola was the more skillful dribbler but I'd take Robert's crosses anyday. They were as good as it get, pace and with just the right bend on them

it's so tragically inevitable that on 1st september this will all be repeating itself, i.e. let's see what happens in january - been the same since the moment ashley bought the club Rubbish. Agreed Jonny, I have no idea why people keep on repeating this eventhough they have absolutely nothing to back up their claim, it's all speculation nonsense solely based on the last Jan transfer window and ignoring all the others which imo we've not done too badly.

it's so tragically inevitable that on 1st september this will all be repeating itself, i.e. let's see what happens in january - been the same since the moment ashley bought the club I keep asking those who say like the above and have never got a good reply. Aside from the last January transfer window which by all account was horrible, which other transfer window under Ashley can be considered bad? If he does not get the cash out this transfer window, I doubt anyone save perhaps his family members are gonna say let's wait for January. Of course people will have different interpretation of what constitutes a 'good' transfer window and some will never be happy unless we spend every penny of 35M plus more, persoally I'd be happy with a deeper squad and a first team strengthened by 2-3 top players especially 2 strikers.

:lol: Actually I was pleased with his exaggerated reaction, it shows at least that he is aware that he has to be careful when going in for tackles and that he is trying to avoid getting cards. Awareness is always the first part of any improvement.

Asking FIFA headed by Blatter to investigate its own corrpution, is like asking Jack the Ripper to investigate who killed and mutilated all those prostitutes!

Bergkamp is a cheating bastard to be honest

aye that would be the truth, but do you see any other managers doing it? It's part of football where managers (even those who don;t have much power) pretend that they do, otherwise they lose all leverage/authority vis-a-vis the players

we are shit even when playing against 10 men!

why are people clapping Lovenkrads off, he did absolutely nothing!

can we just take Lovenkrads off now...this is silly!

Yup at least two stonewall penalties. Mourinho was absolutely right, that was not a clean win! I hate Man Utd to the core but come the CL final, I will hoping that they twat cheating Barca. Yes before anyone starts players like Rooney, Nani dives and cheats too but in now way to the same sickening standard that half of the Barcelona team does!