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Steve Bruce's odds tumbling everywhere today. Either the bookies are running scared or someone has lumped quite serious money on him.

I'm sick of people blaming KK for things. Piss of you twats. i'm sick of people blindly believing one side or the other with no f***ing evidence. piss off you twats. Quite. No evidence? FFS, look at the state of our f**ing squad! Not one fit full-back after KK went on for literally months about needing new full-backs in.

They (Reliance) said they hadn't been able to have a serious discussion with anyone at the club re a takeover. Sad if true.

What is this Newcastle Echo?

Ince's odds have plummeted to as low as 6/1. At least it shows the bookies don't have a clue what's what....

Oh aye - I can just see the generous Blackburn board freely releasing Ince from that brand new contract The article seems to base its theory solely on the fact that the Wiki page says Ince and Wise are mates...........

Tonight's Chron says Ince is now a contender. Mind, AO quotes directly from Ince's Wikipedia page......

Ashley is getting a lot of stick from some fans although nobody knows what part he's played in all of this, if any. Keegan has done what he's done in the past, he's walked away from a managers job when things haven't gone his way. I'll reserve judgement before deciding who has come out of it the worst. Ashley appointed Wise on a premise that he failed to stick to You won't have long to wait for proof that the goalposts were moved on Keegan. I'll say no more... Howay man, spit it out. Facts and specifics have been a bit thin on the ground recently...... I'm told a statement from Ashley, which won't do him any favours, is imminent Are you "sensing" a statement is imminent, David Craig style? No.

Ashley is getting a lot of stick from some fans although nobody knows what part he's played in all of this, if any. Keegan has done what he's done in the past, he's walked away from a managers job when things haven't gone his way. I'll reserve judgement before deciding who has come out of it the worst. Ashley appointed Wise on a premise that he failed to stick to You won't have long to wait for proof that the goalposts were moved on Keegan. I'll say no more... Howay man, spit it out. Facts and specifics have been a bit thin on the ground recently...... I'm told a statement from Ashley, which won't do him any favours, is imminent

Ashley is getting a lot of stick from some fans although nobody knows what part he's played in all of this, if any. Keegan has done what he's done in the past, he's walked away from a managers job when things haven't gone his way. I'll reserve judgement before deciding who has come out of it the worst. Ashley appointed Wise on a premise that he failed to stick to You won't have long to wait for proof that the goalposts were moved on Keegan. I'll say no more... Howay man, spit it out. Facts and specifics have been a bit thin on the ground recently...... Ashley will Keegan was told that he had the final say. So why the f*** are you slagging him off then?

Ashley is getting a lot of stick from some fans although nobody knows what part he's played in all of this, if any. Keegan has done what he's done in the past, he's walked away from a managers job when things haven't gone his way. I'll reserve judgement before deciding who has come out of it the worst. Ashley appointed Wise on a premise that he failed to stick to You won't have long to wait for proof that the goalposts were moved on Keegan. I'll say no more...

I would rather Keegan had remained as manager but if anybody comes out of this looking like a clown then so far it's him for spitting his dummy out again, as usual he acts like a little kid in a playground. I must admit that I question just how much the club means to him when he can just walk away from it, something you often have a go at fans for doing. I think Keegan should have had a final say on transfers and it looks like the players he wanted to bring in were given less priority than the ones others wanted to bring in and that is wrong but the players who have come to the club during the transfer window and played look as if they will improve us. It was a good idea to increase the capacity, it was something which had to be done at the time but it didn't cost £100 million no matter how many times you try to make it appear that it did. Most, if not all of the top clubs do carry debt, a lot of clubs are struggling with debt and that will become worse over the next year or two. I expect a few people at Liverpool and Arsenal are a bit more worried about debt since Man City were taken over meaning that one of those clubs is very unlikely to be playing CL football every season. So you honestly believe that Keegan has come out of this looking worse than Ashley?

From www.newcastlebanter.co.uk Keegan and Ashley: Triumph and Betrayal By Neil Farrington on Sep 4, 08 10:58 PM in SO farewell then, Kevin Keegan - and congratulations. Congratulations not only on leaving Tyneside - surely, for the last time - with your integrity intact. No, congratulations on achieving arguably - hopefully - the greatest triumph of your career at Newcastle United simply by walking away from St James's Park . . . And so exposing the businessmen - businessmen? - who purport to run the club (and so serve the most deserving fans in football) as the witless, conniving, mostly absent fools they are. Cowards too, even if my strong belief that none of them will show their face any time soon in the city they have so callously betrayed is mistaken. For even those few Geordies who felt no emotional pull towards Keegan; even outsiders who habitually gawp at St James's like rubberneckers passing a car crash; cannot deny that the conduct of Newcastle's so-called hierarchy this week - not to mention recent months - has been disgraceful. For two-and-a-half days, Mike Ashley and his goons left a city which lives and breathes football gasping in a vacuum of rumour, speculation and fear. Then they cast that proud town into misery with a pitiless cruelty that bodes worse still for United in the months ahead. Apparently, that's simply the way Mr Ashley does business; the way he got to be the man he is . . . a sad, wannabe football fan and social adolescent (necking a pint in one, indeed). Well,, I am pretty sure he has just made one of the worst business decisions of his life. Having sown an ill wind, he must now reap the whirlwind. Sure, he will have little trouble persuading the outsiders whose fascination with the Newcastle circus grows ever more morbid to switch their attention to the question of Keegan's successor. Why, with more false promises, he might even tempt a credible character - from abroad, most probably - to take the job, Dennis Wise and all. But I reckon Ashley's hopes of making a tidy profit from his ruinous flirtation with football followed Keegan out the door. And even he should know that Newcastle itself will never forget the events of September 2008, or his part in them. And will never forgive. If Ashley acknowledges that fact - and his loyalty to Wise and co above Keegan suggests a detachment from reality - his backside may drop so fast and far in the next few days that he bails out of football to the first bidder. Shame on him that he has left a city praying for such small mercies.

I hear where you're coming from, but do Wise, Jimenez and Vetere represent that solid a recruitment team? Wise seems to have no more contacts in the game than the next man, Jimenez is an ex Chelsea steward and Vetere is largely unknown.

Ambani planning to fly to the UK on Monday to discuss a club takeover (with NUFC top of his list), according to today's Chron.

Great news if true. Let's hope Oliver gets something right for once. This could be required tbh, depends on whether Ashley's had enough. Agreed.

AO saying in the Chron that Keegan definuitely wants to stay - quoting a source close to KK - but that KK wants to buy and sell his own players without interference. Also reckons the Indian businessman Anil Ambani wants to make Ashley a £275m offer for the club.

That's my point . . . he wouldn't resign. Therefore, he HAS either been sacked I think you underestimate KK or rather have overplayed this whole skint thing. EWven if he was skint, KK would not stand for any crap and would rather as he has shown right throughout his career as a player and manager to walk away, even at the expense of money, especially where Newcastle United is concerned. This is a man who when he first took over with the club at the bottom of the old 2nd division and skint paid Terry Mac's wages from his own pocket and didn't claim a salary himself until the club was not only safe but financially stable too. Indeed he wasn't going to ask for anything if the club were relegated so had we went down he would have been massively out of pocket. I say massively, he had a few bob back then because he was prepared to buy Sir John Hall out or give him his money back for the club and run it himself. This by the way people - these facts - is why we love him so much more than anything, because he genuinly cares about the club, enough to walk away if he feels he's being taken for a ride. 7 Worthy sentiments, and I hope you're right.

Club statement at 12.13am. thought it was 12.14am He can't afford to walk. The bottom line is the bottom line - Soccer Circus is dying on its arse and he's skint. you're his accountant are u? or do u just believe the southern press? No, I believe company accounts posted at Companies House. Soccer Circus turned over 270k (that's TURNED OVER) in its first year of trading - a sad and pathetic figure considering the millions it cost to set up. Thats you. The bit in bold. BAM! Millions to set up? Didn't know you were so savvy with the venture. Oh dear. Sorry to have to educate you, but a company report for a start-up business such as Soccer City has to list the investments made in said company (ie capital funds provided) by all directors. SC's company report shows that KK and a couple of others chucked millions in each. This has been reported. You must have missed it. BAM. Sorry to educate you but it wasn't 'Soccer City'. You must have got it confused with another soccer-name enterprise. DOUBLE BAM. But anyway, BAMing aside, where would one find such company reports? Cheers for educating me. Ah, a pedant as well. That figures. Go to the companies house website (or, like me, just read newspapers - the article linked above).

Found the link (apologies, the £270k turnover was for the first six months of trading, not a year - still equates to less than £1500 takings per day) http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/feb/01/sport.comment

That's my point . . . he wouldn't resign. Therefore, he HAS either been sacked He has EITHER been sack or...or...or...or WHAT? Come on m*therf*cker, say WHAT?! ....or bumped off.

That's my point . . . he wouldn't resign. Therefore, he HAS either been sacked

Club statement at 12.13am. thought it was 12.14am He can't afford to walk. The bottom line is the bottom line - Soccer Circus is dying on its arse and he's skint. you're his accountant are u? or do u just believe the southern press? No, I believe company accounts posted at Companies House. Soccer Circus turned over 270k (that's TURNED OVER) in its first year of trading - a sad and pathetic figure considering the millions it cost to set up. Thats you. The bit in bold. BAM! Millions to set up? Didn't know you were so savvy with the venture. Oh dear. Sorry to have to educate you, but a company report for a start-up business such as Soccer City has to list the investments made in said company (ie capital funds provided) by all directors. SC's company report shows that KK and a couple of others chucked millions in each. This has been reported. You must have missed it. BAM.

Club statement at 12.13am. thought it was 12.14am He can't afford to walk. The bottom line is the bottom line - Soccer Circus is dying on its arse and he's skint. you're his accountant are u? or do u just believe the southern press? No, I believe company accounts posted at Companies House. Soccer Circus turned over 270k (that's TURNED OVER) in its first year of trading - a sad and pathetic figure considering the millions it cost to set up.

He can't afford to walk. The bottom line is the bottom line - Soccer Circus is dying on its arse and he's skint. Your point being?