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I generally agree, but there's also a faction who go to the opposite extreme and claim he was man of the match when he simply did OK.

Didn't Colo play Smith and Enrique into trouble a couple of times in the first half? rubbish, Enrique could have hoofed it but didn't. I don't remember the Smith incident tbh The Smith one was very early on. It led to their lad having a shot he sent straight at Harper. A simple "no" would have sufficed re Enrique.

Didn't Colo play Smith and Enrique into trouble a couple of times in the first half?

Spot on. When you've got no wingers, playing one up front is not going to work. A lone striker always needs support, and with three in central midfield this has to come from the wide players. When he hasn't got anyone who can beat a man and cross it in, or get to the byline and cut it back, and nobody making runs around him, your lone striker has got nothing to do but play it backwards all game. He can play it backwards and wait for the ball to work its way out wide, but he won't see it coming back into the box much when there's no wingers at all! Having no wingers is going to be a constant problem, we badly need Gutierrez back. It is madness that we started the season with 1 winger and 2 centre backs at the club but we're making it harder for ourselves by playing with one up front against these kinds of teams. We have fit strikers, play them and play on the front foot, we're playing for promotion not mid-table. No, no , no. It was all Nicky Butt's fault.

Smith and Guthrie central and Barton behind the front man is how this midfield three should be, but it's so impossibly obvious Hughton can't see it. Might as well make it all too difficult for no reason. He's making it difficult because we have no wingers and he has to compensate for this. The fact is he just doesn't want to drop Nolan and now he won't be able to bring himself to drop Butt. The likes of Lua Lua could easily be put out on that wing and his pace and unpredictability would be a breath of fresh air and would at the very least give us another gear out there. I really like Hughton but he is bottling it. Huge shame. whenever lua lua has came on for the first team he's looked lost with lots of running going nowhere. i'd probably rather have geremi in away games. Very good point about Geremi. Can you believe that as bad as our midfield is he doesn't even get a look in. How can you justify playing Butt or Nolan ahead of him? Geremi? OUR Geremi? The Geremi whose last start I can remember - at Hull - was worse than anything Butt or Nolan have produced? i've seen barton and guthrie put in some invisible displays aswell. it's the average that counts not lows. I don't disagree re Barton and Guthrie, but can you tell me what Geremi has produced to boost his average after performances like Hull?

Smith and Guthrie central and Barton behind the front man is how this midfield three should be, but it's so impossibly obvious Hughton can't see it. Might as well make it all too difficult for no reason. He's making it difficult because we have no wingers and he has to compensate for this. The fact is he just doesn't want to drop Nolan and now he won't be able to bring himself to drop Butt. The likes of Lua Lua could easily be put out on that wing and his pace and unpredictability would be a breath of fresh air and would at the very least give us another gear out there. I really like Hughton but he is bottling it. Huge shame. whenever lua lua has came on for the first team he's looked lost with lots of running going nowhere. i'd probably rather have geremi in away games. Very good point about Geremi. Can you believe that as bad as our midfield is he doesn't even get a look in. How can you justify playing Butt or Nolan ahead of him? Geremi? OUR Geremi? The Geremi whose last start I can remember - at Hull - was worse than anything Butt or Nolan have produced?

Yeah I chanted it from within the womb. Then listen to the voice of experience The voice of experience is the reason Butt is out there right now. Do anything but listen to the voice of experience. Experience is a word I have come to despise because of this team of ours. Butt, Nolan, etc. Yeah they'll do a job with all that experience won't they. Nonsense. As Sewelly picked up on, I was being facetious. But hey ho... Is that the Nolan who's done pretty well so far this season? Has Alan Smith's "experience" not helped us this season so far? Nonsense?

so because we're unhappy at defeat, we're kneejerking? I don't see many saying we're going down now tbh Nothing wrong with not being happy with a defeat and reflecting sensibly on it. But for some (more than some) on here, being unhappy at defeat = Hughton out/all our previous wins were lucky/Nicky Butt (the antichrist) was the sole reason for getting beaten.

Yeah I chanted it from within the womb. Then listen to the voice of experience

Probably not, as we were away from home tonight against a side with some momentum and a rabble-rousing manager, as opposed to a home game against a team dying on its arse.

To the kneejerkers: we lost, get over it. We will win on Saturday. Were you lot screaming "Keegan out" when we lost to Grimsby in 1992?

Strange that Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger both agreed with him though isn't it? Spot on. NONE of the leading managers would have stood for what was foisted upon Keegan. Never mind the left-back issue, look at where Xisco is now (will those previously in denial now finally admit the lad is shite beyond measure?). Imagine what Benitez's reaction would have been....

Er, probably isn't going to them begging for money. But can you explain the previous mutterings from Seymour pierce about about proving you had the funds etc Well seeing as how half the first team squad has disappeared since he started did you stop to think how he could afford all the new signings he would need which he wouldnt have accounted for? You have the wrong end of the stick dear boy how has selling players got anything to do with buying the club ,selling the players would make the club a better proposition to buy with the high earners off an money from transfers paying off the overdraft and outgoings in wages dropping which has got nothing to do with proving you had the finances to buy the club ,so how can Seymour Pierce recommend Moat if thats the case. The other end of the stick is that Moat has barely got the cash to buy the club, let alone buy the players needed to replace the ones who've gone and give us a cat in hell's chance of promotion - and the potential for promotion is the only thing which makes Newcastle a viable proposition.

Rightio son. I recall a similar reaction when I told this board that Graeme Souness had been sacked... Who's your mate at the Chron? he's on the news desk but keeps right up to speed with the sport side of things for stuff to flag up on the front page

Rightio son. I recall a similar reaction when I told this board that Graeme Souness had been sacked...

I'm hearing this is right.

What access was that? Conjures up a terrible image.......

Lift it from the Chron, season with a pinch of financial jargon, reheat and serve up as fresh. Job done.....

Where did you hear the Pantelic rumour? Decent player who'd do well in England I reckon.

Bollocks, frankly.

No thanks. i like being able to wear our kits in public. Adidas is better than every other kit maker It's a long standing belief of mine that anyone who wears a football shirt outside the confines of a football ground or while not actually having a kick about should be put down. Why Football shirts were a life saver for me at university. Not once did I use an iron in my 3 year tenure thanks to the wonder of the football shirt. Bet you were still a virgin when you graduated though...

I'm sure there'll be something - but sounds like it will be pretty dismissive

He may have opted out of having his name on the published one, a lot of people do these days to avoid ID theft OK, then if these 5 "North East businessmen" are worth £1 billion between them, why is Parkinson nowhere on the Sunday Times rich list (it goes down as low as £30m)? Here are the 5 richest people in the North East according to the Sunday Times: 144 (232=) Mark Fenwick and family £365m £21m Department stores 178= (270=) The Duke of Northumberland £300m - Land 268= (312=) Alastair and Michael Powell £205m £55m Cabling, Property 309= (397=) Sting £180m £20m Music 388= (525=) Sir Peter Vardy and family £140m £10m Car sales Can you see Fenwick's, the Duke of Northumberland or Sting getting on board??? You only appear on this list should you care to divulge your worth, maybe the guy keeps under the radar No, annual company accounts and reports are public documents available to all from Companies House. That's what most of the ST list is based on

Wind-up. Sad but inevitable.

Any news as to who the other 2 are? The other 2 who? I thought the story was that there were four on board with this Parkinson fella? Well Shepherd is one of them isn't he? Not if it's a wind-up....