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The way I read it, Venables would like the job if it was long term, i.e. if the club wasn't for sale. Are you saying Ashley shouldn't go, which is what we wanted after all? Eh?! Do you need me to spell it out or maybe you could just read the interview again? That wasn't directed towards the interview, you plum. I was perplexed as to how you could assume Dave had meant he wanted Ashley to stay. He was pointing out that Ashley et al are seriously deluded with regards to their approach to football business. But you're a WUM, and that's what you do. Dave, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Deluded or not, the only reason Ashley and Co can't get a manager in is because he's selling the club, so can't guarantee a long term job. How do you propose he do it differently? Take the club off the market?

I'd rather play the youth team than some of that lot.

The way I read it, Venables would like the job if it was long term, i.e. if the club wasn't for sale. Are you saying Ashley shouldn't go, which is what we wanted after all? Eh?! Do you need me to spell it out or maybe you could just read the interview again?

Amazing isn't it how only our best players get injured while the likes of Butt keep coming back to haunt us even after moving to Birmingham.

The way I read it, Venables would like the job if it was long term, i.e. if the club wasn't for sale. Are you saying Ashley shouldn't go, which is what we wanted after all?

No one gave a shit about Chelsea before Abramovich turned them into a leading light. Where would Chelsea be today without his money? Mid-table. But with their pre-Chelski fans still supporting them I reckon, keeping the "soul" alive at their home games. Why don't Chelsea fans organise a demonstration to get owners who will keep their "soul" alive then?

interesting question. We had people running the club once, who trumpeted about their local heritage. Unfortunately, a lot of people didn't want it because they found it "embarrassing" and insisted we would be better with someone else. Next season we may well be embarrassingly competing in a lower league again, like we used to do on a fairly regular basis. Middlesboro have always been the poor relations of the northeasts "big three" by the way, and always will. Gibson is as good a chairman as its possible for them to have apart from an Abramovic type of guy. I'm pleased they know their place in the pecking order, if nothing else. Nice to see them holding on to their identity, but don't kid yourself, if they were taken over tomorrow by a bunch of ambitious Arabs they would be doing cartwheels. Are you talking about Gordon Mckeag?

No one gave a shit about Chelsea before Abramovich turned them into a leading light. Where would Chelsea be today without his money?

Great post that...started off with "regardless of who is right or wrong" and ended up regarding one person only wrong. Well he if changed the opening bit to "regardless of who was right or wrong at the outset" then I think he's spot on. Aren't you one of the tits who was rejoicing in the thread about Guthrie's tackle which saw him suspended for three matches? That's worked out well hasn't it? Enjoyed watching Cacapa in midfield have you?

Great post that...started off with "regardless of who is right or wrong" and ended up regarding one person only wrong.

Do you know something I don't?

So why hasn't he turned a club around since 1984? Ah you're on a wind up, I see. If you don't know anything it's best just to shut up.

Hoddle's not that bad imo, but a bit of a wet blanket so probably not the best for this situation. would like to see Viduka's face as the faith healers walk into the treatment room instead of the physio. Hoddle is not a man who inspires players, he spends far too much time telling everyone about his own dubious qualities. If he comes here I think we'll go down.

So do I, lets get him. What's that...? He said he wouldn't manage under this system? Let's get him... what's that...He said he wouldn't manage under this system? Let's get him... (repeat ad nauseum)

What I will say is this: if Venables was seriously interested in taking this job, he should have been offered a worthwhile contract, it would have been worth the cost. He is one of the few available managers capable of turning this round. George Graham and Hoddle are names that fill me with dread. I can't imagine players being lifted by their arrival, I can only hope the fact Venables wasn't offered a longer deal points to the fact a sale isn't far off.

But... but... it was the banner that put him off. Of course Terry Venables or anyone for that matter doesn't want to work on a match to match basis, that is absurd and totally unrealistic that the very idea of it should come with straight jackets because its insane and shows you just how desparate these buffoons running the show really are, what next I wonder. I dread to think, seriously. How the hell would Venables or anyone be able to raise morale, confidence, belief and actually put together a team to win matches knowing the next match could be the last match. No player would ever commit to such a 'deal' either. Yeah, I'm Charles N'Zogbia and Venables wants me to work my balls off for him, to commit to his ideas and plans. What for, for these plans, ideas and the relationship to disappear a few weeks later? And beyond all that, what about the fans, how the fuck are we meant to have any faith or trust in Venables knowing he could be gone a week or so later? You couldn't write this shit honestly. Yet if he'd been offered a longer contract you and your mates would be shouting that it proved Ashley didn't want to sell the club at all...it's a dastardly plan to put the club in the iron grip of the cockney mafia, Tel the wideboy joining his mate Dennis Wise, no intention to sell, blah blah..

We need the fans to run the club tbh.

I'm not saying the fans are fully to blame but some need to look at themselves. Remember that vitriol that Allardyce faced after only a few months (Liverpool at home)? Managers, especially in this country, will have noted something like that. I'm not saying the fans are perfect and have acted with complete dignity throughout this. But put it this way, nobody was against Ashley until Keegan felt he had to walk out. Well, apart from NE5. Most were at least content with the way we were moving forward, on and off the pitch. The fans are NOT responsible for the mess we now find ourselves in as a club. I'm pretty sure if the club wasn't up for sale and we were prepared to offer a manager a proper job we'd be able to find one. You can't have your cake and eat it.

I wonder what sort of extended deal he's after? Wouldn't expect any half decent manager to settle for less than till the end of the season tbf.

A match to match deal is a fairly crap offer tbh. Venables would be working with a decimated squad for the next couple of weeks, if the club gets sold, he could be out before he gets a chance to make a difference. Don't blame him for not jumping at that really.

Yes...Shearer, the man who stated he would never work under such a set up...he's the man to go for right this minute!

To be fair, most people on here at least seem to recognise Taylor is fairly s***, apart from Northern Monkey who is a psycho. A lot of us were annoyed that Faye was allowed to leave as well but that's history now. And Kaka was one of the biggest Ashleyites professing what a great job was done this summer with the transfer window. Even started a thread about how much he still loved the man. Yet this is the squad his much vaunted system has left us with. And btw for perspective, Collocini has been no better than Taylor over the last few games, they've both been absolutely horrendous. I disagree, Coloccini to be fair seems to have the basics right, he just needs to fine tune his game to the english style which will take a while Taylor has managed to play 4 games out of 6 now without slightly resembling a premiership defender, despite this being his 6th season in the first team. Absolutely shocking Would agree with that. Colo is clearly adjusting to the speed of the Premier league, but even so it's noticeable how he anticipates danger and tries to snuff it early. Taylor has no idea so backs away towards the goal line like a 12yr old kid. it must be difficult to play alongside a defender who is all over the place. In the one game Colo played alongside Bassong they looked very good together, maybe one question mark would be in the air, where Taylor is ok.

Well, being on the dole, he's obviously in a position of strength to make such demands.

To be fair, most people on here at least seem to recognise Taylor is fairly shit, apart from Northern Monkey who is a psycho. A lot of us were annoyed that Faye was allowed to leave as well but that's history now.

Nothing wrong with the article as long as people realise it's just someone voicing his fears. Until more becomes clear, no one really knows if the bid is genuine yet, including the writer of that piece.