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I think it's more important that we don't risk players who aren't 100% fit, and put out a hungry side tomorrow. If we go out we go out, but at least we don't endanger the rest of our season.

They gave 100%, that was the main difference. We had a few too many players leaving stuff to others. Just because you don't have Joelinton and Botman doesn't mean you just let them walk in 4 goals.

Yeah I didn't think it was necessary to point out the obvious.

Not gonna happen. If Isak is still out, Wilson will start. Osula has barely been given more than 5 mins so far.

He's been resting for a year tbf, two starts in a week shouldn't be too much of a stretch. I think Howe would rather play Isak, will depend on if he's still feeling the groin. I doubt he would start Osula.

He looks at his best when he can put in a burst of speed. He's slow over distance, but he can usually do quick bursts to get him past players. But if he's fatigued than he's just slow everywhere, and that's where he is at the moment. He looks jaded to me, we should be rotating him more.

This is where I'm at as well. I think it's unreasonable to expect higher than 7th, but with Man U and Spurs having disastrous seasons, 5th and CL looked more than on a month ago. It would be disappointing if a club like Forest or Bournemouth finished ahead of us.

Not surprised, there wasn't really much to enthuse about. If Willock and Murphy have bad games, you can put it down to them being out of their depth. But Pope, Bruno and Tonali were hardly much better.

Strikers miss chances, it doesn't mean they are finished, that was my point. I said this even when Isak was missing them and people were moaning. If Wilson is finished, it isn't because he missed the one on one yesterday.

I think Miley is more than good enough to rotate with anyone, including Tonali and Bruno.

Tonali is one of my favourite players, I just think our players would be a bit sharper if they weren't taking their places for granted. I think Howe could use his squad more effectively but obviously I'm not a pro and he is.

Well yeah, but the mentality is the problem, not that Liverpool are unbeatable, they have defensive weaknesses, we just can't keep the ball long enough to get it that far up the pitch. Steve Bruce or Pardew would probably have more success with the hump it long tactic.

Plus he didn't do that much different even in his pomp. Other than miss, but we've seen Isak miss so many one on ones this season.

We did get behind them twice in the first half, if Wilson finishes, might have given the game a different look.

Think that's on the players personally. He didn't tell them to go out and lose.

McAteer basically said as much after the game the smarmy cunt.

Most of this lot would probably nod in agreement.

He didn't quite have the quality to get near enough.

Use your squad Eddie. Keeps players like this getting complacent.

Think he can still score goals tbh. He was never a great contributor outside the penalty area even at his best, he's shown he still has the goalscorer's instinct. Just without the goals so far this season.

The best way to maximise his potential would be to sell him for an inflated fee after a blockbuster season. But that won't happen.

He should definitely be rested, tired or not. Lewis Miley is a tailor made replacement anyhow, this is where Howe needs to use his squad.

Yeah no complaints there, with some better individual performances we could easily have got a result.

Should have played from the start tonight, his age is counting against him.

Has Murphy managed to find a Newcastle player tonight?