BlufPurdi

There's no way anyone is telling me half those pricks were the ones provoked. You only need to watch the videos of it before it kicks off, they're goading people. Throw the first punch/bottle? Perhaps not. Asking for it? Absolutely.

I wonder why.

The English are certainly seperate from any of their Celtic cousins on this one. Surely they must be close to being chucked out? Disgusting scenes. Always feel it's a sort of British/English nationalism thing. Like when Rangers fans tore up Manchester, or when the British nationalists tore of Glasgow city centre after the indy ref (). That sort of "we don't give a fuck what you think of us" attitude. Scotland have the exact same sort of drinking culture, but when their fans go abroad, there's never a hint of trouble.

Aye. We're such poor victims. We've not even kicked a ball yet. Just ban us, the whole lot. The fans, the team. Fuck us, we're a waste of time anyway.

Nah, booze ban in Lens and I expect St Etienne to follow Maybe that's just the way to go.

Stick with the Russians. You'll be safer.

Can't ever tell if you're serious or not these days.

I can't speak for NUFC away days in Europe, I'm sure there's been times it has been harsh, but it'll have been based on shit like this going back to the 90s. That's willfully forgetting the glorious days of the 80s. Obviously there are many there that are just there "for a laugh, a drink, a party", in their own eyes, feeling they're doing nothing wrong but it's the manner it's conducted in. The same sort of shit we see in town centres up and down the country, that UK police certainly don't put up with for the most part but on a much larger, uncontrolled scale. There's no inclusivity to it, there's no respect for surroundings, for locals, for the culture they are in. They don't mingle, they don't want to be part of a greater, wider group of human beings. They want to fuck everyone off, be the "English", they want to get blootered to the point of incoherency and pass it off has "having a laugh", "doing no harm" bullshit. It's the same pathetic shit you used to see on programmes about Brits abroad. I get it. I've done it to some degree, but when you're travelling as part of a much wider group, essentially representing your nation and making or breaking that nation's reputation (constantly breaking seems to be our trend), there comes a point when you need to show a little fucking decency. Go, have a drink, but be a decent person, have a laugh with the locals, speak to someone that isn't another obnoxious English cunt, spreading his arms out, looking for a ruck with someone, anyone. Fucking pathetic cunts. I dread the England/Scotland games next year.

The last football top I ever bought had Shearer on the back.

Hopefully he rejects it.

I hate our culture.

Good grief.

That's it though, they've kicked off a chain reaction. If it was local to me, and I was 10-15 years younger, I'd be well up for getting pissed and bottling some daft foreign cunt causing shite on my streets. I'm sure from now on a lot of it will be England fans getting provoked, as the story has gone since 1998.

Same, had completely forgot we did this shit for some stupid fucked up reason. South Africa and Brazil were probably too expensive for the cunts. Did anything happen in 2012?

Honestly, I feel so sorry for decent English fans over there, but rounds us all up, and get them sent fucking home. It's beyond embarrassing now.

What a great question.

Fucking finally!

Him and Mick McCarthy are as good as it gets at getting teams promoted. Hughton could well follow suit... Has Hughton achieved anything since leaving us? Genuine question by the way. Been out of touch with football so long, I've no idea about anyone. Rafa's brought me back.

Similar, but here. Fucking Open_C.

Was thinking the same. Or hoping, at least.

Same, probably about 4-5, but fucking hell. That was a release.