BlufPurdi

Hilarious.

You shut up, honestly. Hahaha!

You shut up, honestly.

Haha~!

Get in!

Yas!

All I did was go for a fucking shit and I come back to this.

No.

Rather unsurprisingly music is now pumping at ridiculous levels. Scum, sub-human scum.

YALDI! Made sure all my neighbours heard me celebrate.

:lol: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, man.

Er, that's not been decided.

That was bad.

Nope, and because we rather stupidly give far too much respect to religions.

Feel like I've gone round in circles with my posts. But yeah, fuck off MPs, no laws were broken and that's not our fault.

In all honesty, I'm past caring about dodgy sponsorships. Football lost its moral compass decades ago, so why anyone going to give a fuck now, I really don't know. I don't like Wonga, would've preferred someone else, but can't always get what you want. Just we shouldn't try and justify this because others have done similar. At the same time, we shouldn't beat ourselves up about it. If they (MPs, in this case) don't want legal loaners to be sponsors, then create the laws and legislation to prevent it.

We have had Virgin Money though and there was no uproar then. From the Muslim Council of Britain, you mean? I'm not sure why they decided to pipe up now, to be honest, only they know. If you mean from anyone else, non-muslim, then perhaps because Virgin Money haven't helped destroy the economy. From what I've read, it's because Wonga are far more exploitative (in theory) than banks, though. The whole thing is a confused debate, everyone seems to be arguing about different things anyway.

Barclays were seen as one of the few banks that didn't contribute to the financial meltdown, and they were sponsors of the league before the Libor scandal broke out. So, no, BB, there weren't any protest or uproar about it because there was nothing there. Like I say, I don't agree with them being a sponsor either, and I'm sure when the new deal is to be arranged there will be a move to stop them taking it up again, but until then they'll have to wait out this contract. It's all a bit stupid, everyone knows there's massive hypocrisy in football sponsorships, it's just about the money. I think people have a right to be peeved at Wonga being our sponsor, pointing out other clubs similar moves should have nothing to do with it. EDIT: And the reason Sharia law is brought up because we have muslim players that would have to wear Wonga on the shirt. We don't wear Barclays, so there's no need for it to be brought up in that context either.

There has been plenty of bad press about banks, but I've not seen anything at all that claims the premier league is cheapening their brand because of their association with Barclays, and that Muslims will no longer watch the Premier League. Nor have I heard MPs voice their concern with such a sponsorship. That's fair enough, but I've read PLENTY of times in this thread now, "there's been nothing said about the banks that fucked everything up", or words to that effect. The difference is with the banks though, is they're seen as essential to running a country and can't just be done away with. Wonga aren't exactly an essential part of the economy. Again, I'm not taking a side here, I don't like Wonga or the banks' collective practices. It shouldn't be about what's said about other sponsorships, the debate is about Wonga and whether it's seen as a good move. Pointing out someone else's hypocrisy doesn't make our own any better or worse.

I don't know how anyone can claim there hasn't been any negative press about banks, have you all been living on the moon for the past 5 years? I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment of double standards, exactly, but let's not make out no-one has been bashing Barclays etc.