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I think the redknapp and hughes links were just a smokescreen to keep the media busy. Ashley's not that obvious I don't think
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One big problem with Houllier! What he if brings that penis nosed scouse c*** called Thompson?
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No he'd probably fuck that up as well!
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I was thinking a bungee jump over the centre circle of St Jame's with Keegan in a black and white boiler suit!
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i thought u were a lass :S Why fancy a shag? Not if you look anything like your avatar! Would much rather watch Arsenal TV thanks Lying bitch! I'm actually sitting down. honest Reverse cowgirl style then? lol Just the way you like it baby Ewwwww wish I hadn't replied now I feel all dirty!
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i thought u were a lass :S Why fancy a shag? Not if you look anything like your avatar! Would much rather watch Arsenal TV thanks Lying bitch! I'm actually sitting down. honest Reverse cowgirl style then? lol
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i thought u were a lass :S Why fancy a shag? Not if you look anything like your avatar! Would much rather watch Arsenal TV thanks Lying bitch!
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i thought u were a lass :S Why fancy a shag?
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Do you have any faith in these 2 clowns getting it right? After all, their first choice was Redknapp who hardly any of us would have wanted. And don't get me started on that c*nt Kemsley who seems to be conducting things! Kemsley seems to be on a one man sabotage mission. Wish the fat cunt would just stick to darts!
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Ok so please explain how has Fergies playing style changed? Exactly the same as it ever was i'm not gonna look this up as i've not got time but the way i see them having changed is that they play the same game home and away now (within reason), they never did that before...they sat back and hit teams on the break away...with cole upfront and then cantona/yorke whoever drifting about now he's going into games with rooney/tevez/ronaldo/anderson/nani all in his team...half the time he's playing one DM (hargreaves or carrick) and then just letting the rest of them play teams off the pitch, it's almost keegan-esque (the difference is his back four are good enough to not need as much protection as they would have in the past perhaps) they're far, far more attacking and expansive now than they've ever been away from home, simple as that really... And you say his style wouldn't work in todays football! Man Utd have always done that, just he's got more flair players than he had before! It's not that his style has changed well again, i'll choose to see keegan failing the first time as fairly strong evidence that he'd be unlikely to succeed this time at the same game...and bear in mind the time and money it's taken ferguson to assemble a team like he's got now... see to me a midfield of butt/keane/beckham/giggs compared to the players i've named in the last post is a massive change in style in my eyes, not yours i'm aware it was basically an orthodox 4-4-2 he played to win the title against us, are you telling me that's what they play now like? So how did he fail? He brought the best days I can remember, Yes we lost the title but look at that Man U game we battered them and lost 1 nil to some spawny twats.
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Plus we'd have our next manager sorted as well. We need a lift! And I just don't think we'd get it other than bagging Jose.
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Ok so please explain how has Fergies playing style changed? Exactly the same as it ever was i'm not gonna look this up as i've not got time but the way i see them having changed is that they play the same game home and away now (within reason), they never did that before...they sat back and hit teams on the break away...with cole upfront and then cantona/yorke whoever drifting about now he's going into games with rooney/tevez/ronaldo/anderson/nani all in his team...half the time he's playing one DM (hargreaves or carrick) and then just letting the rest of them play teams off the pitch, it's almost keegan-esque (the difference is his back four are good enough to not need as much protection as they would have in the past perhaps) they're far, far more attacking and expansive now than they've ever been away from home, simple as that really... And you say his style wouldn't work in todays football! Man Utd have always done that, just he's got more flair players than he had before! It's not that his style has changed
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Wonder if this poll will go staright on Morts desk! lol
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I've set my tivo to record over all my porn!
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funny, ditto.... Ok so please explain how has Fergies playing style changed? Exactly the same as it ever was
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Go back and look at the league tables under KK, the season we were pipped for the title we only concedeed 9 goals at home all season! Away from home was another matter, but you would expect someone to learn from that. come on mate there's having a good defence and there's playing teams off the pitch...we won 17 games at home that season due to our attacking football that's the reason for conceding 9 to all intents and purposes Well attacking is the best form of defense! And all this bullshit about footballs changed! Has it f***! Fergies still got Man utd playing the same way from when keegan was last with us! If you're talking about the mentality of stop the other team scoring as opposed to just score more then maybe that applies to lower clubs where that's the only way they think thay can get a result. Football is only as complicated as you make it! Keep it simple and you'll win. if you think man u circa the one-nil win at SJP that more or less swung the title and the team he's putting out now are in any way similar then you need help man, seriously man u played a tight counter attacking game away from home in those days and were more expansive at home...think about how we lost that title, jesus, it writes itself...the won it on the road, if our away record had been nearly as good it was our title now they've spent so much money it doesn't matter a f***, they can go and attack 90% of teams with only hargreaves in DM and they'll still get a result those two teams aren't even close God you really don't have a clue do you? What do Man u play now? A tight counter attacking game! Same as they always have. The players are just different. completely disagree, so i guess that makes you clueless? if i disagree with what you say? Your choice to disagree but I know i'm right!
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Yep I remember Peacock Albert Beresford Barton and Venison! All not fanatstic but if your attcking the f*** out of teams you don't get exposed as much! People need to realise it's not just about having supurb players back there, it's about the whole team doing there job! If Man U had our midfield and forwards do you not think they'd leak allot of goals? Of course they would do you honestly we can just go out in todays PL and attack? honestly? Fucking hell you have no concept of what i'm talking about
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Go back and look at the league tables under KK, the season we were pipped for the title we only concedeed 9 goals at home all season! Away from home was another matter, but you would expect someone to learn from that. come on mate there's having a good defence and there's playing teams off the pitch...we won 17 games at home that season due to our attacking football that's the reason for conceding 9 to all intents and purposes Well attacking is the best form of defense! And all this bullshit about footballs changed! Has it f***! Fergies still got Man utd playing the same way from when keegan was last with us! If you're talking about the mentality of stop the other team scoring as opposed to just score more then maybe that applies to lower clubs where that's the only way they think thay can get a result. Football is only as complicated as you make it! Keep it simple and you'll win. if you think man u circa the one-nil win at SJP that more or less swung the title and the team he's putting out now are in any way similar then you need help man, seriously man u played a tight counter attacking game away from home in those days and were more expansive at home...think about how we lost that title, jesus, it writes itself...the won it on the road, if our away record had been nearly as good it was our title now they've spent so much money it doesn't matter a f***, they can go and attack 90% of teams with only hargreaves in DM and they'll still get a result those two teams aren't even close God you really don't have a clue do you? What do Man u play now? A tight counter attacking game! Same as they always have. The players are just different.
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Yep I remember Peacock Albert Beresford Barton and Venison! All not fanatstic but if your attcking the fuck out of teams you don't get exposed as much! People need to realise it's not just about having supurb players back there, it's about the whole team doing there job! If Man U had our midfield and forwards do you not think they'd leak allot of goals? Of course they would
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Quality What his sources doesn't know either?
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Go back and look at the league tables under KK, the season we were pipped for the title we only concedeed 9 goals at home all season! Away from home was another matter, but you would expect someone to learn from that. come on mate there's having a good defence and there's playing teams off the pitch...we won 17 games at home that season due to our attacking football that's the reason for conceding 9 to all intents and purposes Well attacking is the best form of defense! And all this bullshit about footballs changed! Has it fuck! Fergies still got Man utd playing the same way from when keegan was last with us! If you're talking about the mentality of stop the other team scoring as opposed to just score more then maybe that applies to lower clubs where that's the only way they think thay can get a result. Football is only as complicated as you make it! Keep it simple and you'll win.
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Relevant? I was replying to li3nz's point about the feel good factor before kick-off if Shearer & Keegan take over. Will mean very little if on their first game they're gubbed though won't it. I genuinely believe the atmosphere will be on a level we have never seen before at this ground. I don't think we will "get grubbed" and wouldn't be surprised to see the atmosphere reflected on the players performance... maybe in a typical Keegan'esque "entertainers" wave after wave of attack, but this is dreamland stuff.... my point is the way our supporters used to get behind the team back then really did make a huge difference, as much as it is an overused saying we really were the 12th man and I think it will take a figurehead such as keegan or shearer to bring this back. we'd not lose unless we come up against a profesionall football team who believe in ability and coaching rather than mythical atmosphere's for winning games This is the point though. f****** David Copperfield could manage us, never mind Mourinho - the way things are he wouldn't be able to get a decent performance out of that lot. We need more than one of these so called tactical genius phenonenon's (by the way, I think this label is as mythical as it gets) they can't do anything with our club, we are in an extremely depressed state. By the way re: the other point about players reporting to Keegan, discipline etc, if Shearer was ultimately in charge I am in no doubt they would do anthing he said. If he told them to run through the wall they would knock the whole building down doing it. Erm, not all players - whisper it, but not even all NEWCASTLE players - have the same pathetic deification problem with Shaerer that some NUFC fans do. He was a very good player, who clearly loved NUFC. There is f*** all to say that he would be a good manager (there are lots of as good and better players who did not do well at all), and f*** all to say players would revere him like some NUFC fans do. He's not a f****** magician, we have no idea what he is like tactically, what he'd be like with transfers etc. I'd rather we got an actually GOOD manager in, and acted like a proper football club, and not a bunch of misty-eyed, fantasising fanboys. And as for someone else's comments about him being earmarked for the job - by WHO, exactly?? D - I - S - C - O I see the point you are trying to make but it's not something I can contest with you because I have never bought this "Uber Coach" nonsense, football is a very simple game. The successful managers, by and large, have won trophies with successful clubs ANYWAY, that have always won trophies! Not clubs that have won nowt for half a decade! Going by this logic, to appoint our proven successful managaer, we would need to find someone that has taken over a club in an incredibly depressed state, that has not won anything in their lifetime, and has brought success. It doesn't happen. Gerrard Houllier won 5 trophies (OK, one was the Charity Shield, so "only 4") with Liverpool, could he do the same with us or even come close? Could he bollocks! We would just be moving sideways. Look at Sam Allardyce, he was meant to be good... Spot on my sentiments exactly. Look at who we've had? Dalglish - Failed Didn't get us Gullit - Failed Didn't get us Souness - Failed Didn't get us Roeder - Failed Didn't get us Big Sam - Failed Didn't get us And yet Keegan - Best we've had Robson - Great but if only we'd got him earlier! Now is that a bit of a trend with managers that don't get what were about? I think it is. Bobby and Kevin knew it and they brought us what we wanted but yet the others didn't have a clue! This is a local club for local people! http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/08/30/leagueofgentlemen2_396x222.jpg
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What a load of crap! They know damn well who he is, it's all about getting the players to believe in themselves and that is one area Keegan excelled in! Would love to know who you think would be better than those 2 at this time realistically? As Shearer has been ear marked for the job anyway! Why not get them in now? Otherwise the next manager will have the same problem Big sam had with Shearer lurking in the shadows and seemingly making it an impossible job! look the point is why keegan? shearer no worries, seems nailed on at some point but why keegan? for us it'd be sentimental and everyone could have a tear in their eye...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do...surely shearer would be able to motivate? then what does keegan bring? explain to me 'cause i'm asking... Why Keegan is because why allot don't just want Shearer by himself! No expierience but under Keegan he'd gain that! I'm sure Keegan see's it as a great chance to turn us into a force again but ultimatly handing it over to Shearer when the time is right! That way we all win! We get the boost of having people who don't need to understand the mind set up here and Shearer gets the knowledge first hand instead of starting out at some s*** pot championship side. yeah, but erm, why keegan? all good reasons for shearer (arguable) but instead of keegan why not a good, experienced first team coach? it's a fair question - with shearer you get the sentimentalism so why keegan? get an actual good coach instead.... Ok name me one that would be your choice? For a start they both know each other, and plus it'll bring the feel good factor back and just may take away that fuck up and you're gone mentality that's been around this club for the last 5 managers.
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What a load of crap! They know damn well who he is, it's all about getting the players to believe in themselves and that is one area Keegan excelled in! Would love to know who you think would be better than those 2 at this time realistically? As Shearer has been ear marked for the job anyway! Why not get them in now? Otherwise the next manager will have the same problem Big sam had with Shearer lurking in the shadows and seemingly making it an impossible job! look the point is why keegan? shearer no worries, seems nailed on at some point but why keegan? for us it'd be sentimental and everyone could have a tear in their eye...doesn't mean it's the right thing to do...surely shearer would be able to motivate? then what does keegan bring? explain to me 'cause i'm asking... Why Keegan is because why allot don't just want Shearer by himself! No expierience but under Keegan he'd gain that! I'm sure Keegan see's it as a great chance to turn us into a force again but ultimatly handing it over to Shearer when the time is right! That way we all win! We get the boost of having people who don't need to understand the mind set up here and Shearer gets the knowledge first hand instead of starting out at some shit pot championship side.
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What a load of crap! They know damn well who he is, it's all about getting the players to believe in themselves and that is one area Keegan excelled in! Would love to know who you think would be better than those 2 at this time realistically? As Shearer has been ear marked for the job anyway! Why not get them in now? Otherwise the next manager will have the same problem Big sam had with Shearer lurking in the shadows and seemingly making it an impossible job!