Kitman

Yes our money. Unlike buying goods from the supermarkerts, most fans don't just buy tickets to watch the game, they fork out the money because they see it as an investment towards the club so that the club will have the finances to do well and improve. That's the only way to explain why people keep on buying tickets despite the extortionist prices, its definitely not for the entertainment value! Similarly reason why fans buy tops from the club shop when they can get the exact same product from normal sports stores for 10-15 quid cheaper. Paying OUR money towards NUFC is not just like buying a packet of condoms! From a purely pedantic point of view, its not the fans money. If you are a Scorsese fan and pay to see his films, they dont become 'your' films. If he raises money on the basis of fans going to see his films for a new production, that isnt 'your' film either. The exchange of money for products (i nearly said 'goods') and services is a legal exchange. Your money becomes the clubs money through your willingness to pay to watch games and own merchandise... whether they are entertaining or not. Fan power starts and stops with their willingness to pay. I'm sure that's exactly how the Board see it and why FFS insists on calling it a business rather than a club. Of course most fans don't see the analogy since if for example I think Scorsese is a stupid fat **** who doesn't have a clue how to make a film, I can always go and see any number of films by other directors. Whereas I'd guess most people on here will never support anyone but Newcastle Utd & view their money as going to support their club, however naieve a view that may seem. Of course they can stop spending on the club until things change but they don't enjoy the same freedom of choice as an ordinary consumer. An excellent point Kitman, they are running a kind of local monopoly which does mean that the market isnt fair. If you want to watch live football its Newcastle or nowt. However, just because they can extract higher prices out of us without affecting demand for tickets (given the quality of results/football remains), doesnt mean a transfer of ownership of any of the assets of the club to its paying supporters and customers. Whether you pay over the odds, under the odds or pay to someone you havent got a choice about, once you've handed over the money it not yours anymore. Of course you're right. But people have a special connection with the club don't they, which makes them think their money is going to support the club. You can't have it both ways really. If we don't care about that, let's drop club from our name. In fact let's call it Newcastle Give Us All Your Money We Don't Give a Shit about You If You Don't Like It Sod Off Ltd bluebiggrin.gif The club shop clothing and embroidering department would be the immediate beneficiaries That fat lad with NUFC tatooed on his belly is going to have to dig deep bluebiggrin.gif

Certainly FFS has given him the dreaded vote of confidence so it doesn't look good. Personally I think his "I'd only be worried if it was like this at Christmas" comment points more to a xmas termination date. Tis the season to be jolly after all.

Yes our money. Unlike buying goods from the supermarkerts, most fans don't just buy tickets to watch the game, they fork out the money because they see it as an investment towards the club so that the club will have the finances to do well and improve. That's the only way to explain why people keep on buying tickets despite the extortionist prices, its definitely not for the entertainment value! Similarly reason why fans buy tops from the club shop when they can get the exact same product from normal sports stores for 10-15 quid cheaper. Paying OUR money towards NUFC is not just like buying a packet of condoms! From a purely pedantic point of view, its not the fans money. If you are a Scorsese fan and pay to see his films, they dont become 'your' films. If he raises money on the basis of fans going to see his films for a new production, that isnt 'your' film either. The exchange of money for products (i nearly said 'goods') and services is a legal exchange. Your money becomes the clubs money through your willingness to pay to watch games and own merchandise... whether they are entertaining or not. Fan power starts and stops with their willingness to pay. I'm sure that's exactly how the Board see it and why FFS insists on calling it a business rather than a club. Of course most fans don't see the analogy since if for example I think Scorsese is a stupid fat **** who doesn't have a clue how to make a film, I can always go and see any number of films by other directors. Whereas I'd guess most people on here will never support anyone but Newcastle Utd & view their money as going to support their club, however naieve a view that may seem. Of course they can stop spending on the club until things change but they don't enjoy the same freedom of choice as an ordinary consumer. An excellent point Kitman, they are running a kind of local monopoly which does mean that the market isnt fair. If you want to watch live football its Newcastle or nowt. However, just because they can extract higher prices out of us without affecting demand for tickets (given the quality of results/football remains), doesnt mean a transfer of ownership of any of the assets of the club to its paying supporters and customers. Whether you pay over the odds, under the odds or pay to someone you havent got a choice about, once you've handed over the money it not yours anymore. Of course you're right. But people have a special connection with the club don't they, which makes them think their money is going to support the club. You can't have it both ways really. If we don't care about that, let's drop club from our name. In fact let's call it Newcastle Give Us All Your Money We Don't Give a Shit about You If You Don't Like It Sod Off Ltd bluebiggrin.gif

Yes our money. Unlike buying goods from the supermarkerts, most fans don't just buy tickets to watch the game, they fork out the money because they see it as an investment towards the club so that the club will have the finances to do well and improve. That's the only way to explain why people keep on buying tickets despite the extortionist prices, its definitely not for the entertainment value! Similarly reason why fans buy tops from the club shop when they can get the exact same product from normal sports stores for 10-15 quid cheaper. Paying OUR money towards NUFC is not just like buying a packet of condoms! From a purely pedantic point of view, its not the fans money. If you are a Scorsese fan and pay to see his films, they dont become 'your' films. If he raises money on the basis of fans going to see his films for a new production, that isnt 'your' film either. The exchange of money for products (i nearly said 'goods') and services is a legal exchange. Your money becomes the clubs money through your willingness to pay to watch games and own merchandise... whether they are entertaining or not. Fan power starts and stops with their willingness to pay. I'm sure that's exactly how the Board see it and why FFS insists on calling it a business rather than a club. Of course most fans don't see the analogy since if for example I think Scorsese is a stupid fat twat who doesn't have a clue how to make a film, I can always go and see any number of films by other directors. Whereas I'd guess most people on here will never support anyone but Newcastle Utd & view their money as going to support their club, however naieve a view that may seem. Of course they can stop spending on the club until things change but they don't enjoy the same freedom of choice as an ordinary consumer.

I reckon a few people might be interested for £500k a year. At least he's signalled that he would sell out to the right buyer. Some bloke like Abramovich. But who's a Geordie. Mustn't be short. Or thin. Ideally should keep pigeons or a whippet. And be born on the 4th of July. And like Pina Coladas. And getting caught in the rain. No wonder he can't find a buyer, eh?

Tesco value. Very tasty, Emre ...and there's me thinking you'd be eating something Turkish for breakfast like a big cahoona burger. Well I used to a few years back, but now I follow Glen Roeders healthy eating regime in association with Jamie Oliver :lol: I'm told the big cahoona is one tasty burger, is that right?

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Tesco value. Very tasty, Emre ...and there's me thinking you'd be eating something Turkish for breakfast like a big cahoona burger.

I voted pies. You can never have enough pies in life.

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Wasn't he accused of assaulting a woman outside a nightclub in Senegal or wherever he's from?

The Terry MC? blueyes.gif

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too kind, sir, too kind bluebiggrin.gif

I think the most worrying thing is that Glenn has started referring to himself in the third person, as though he's talking about someone else. A sure sign of the pressure telling methinks

I can't stand him but you can't argue with his record. I hope he gets the clap too bluebiggrin.gif

A bedtime story for Toon fans bluebiggrin.gif Ratty and McMole were walking by the riverbank. A little black and white boat drifted past with a great big fat toad on board. "I'm the captain of this boat, me. The crew were useless twats so I pushed them overboard. Jump on board and save my boat before it's too late" said the fat Toad. "But I don't know anything about rowing boats" said Ratty. "And McMole here is only allowed outdoors under adult supervision." "Fuck that. There's no-one else so you'll have to do. Anyway you're the crew everyone wants" said the fat Toad. Ratty had always wanted to row a boat on the river but never thought he'd get the chance. McMole just wanted to ride in the boat. So Ratty and McMole jumped onboard. Everything went well for a while. The Fat Toad sat in the prow with a great big grin, waving to passers by and eating food from a hamper which he refused to share with anyone else. He was very pleased with himself. Ratty rowed for all he was worth and the black and white boat moved down the river. McMole sat humming to himself and playing with his shoe laces. But Ratty got tired and forgot what he was doing. "Come on you useless tosser" bellowed the Toad. "Use your right oar. No the left one. Now both together. For ****'s sake you're getting it wrong. Look, use these shiny new oars I've bought instead, they're rolls royce oars those are!" But Ratty hadn't done his rowing badges and didn't know what he was doing. The oars the Toad had given Ratty were no good. The boat ended up going round and round in circles with the fat Toad bellowing instructions. Then the boat sprang a leak and drifted towards a big weir. The Toad did nothing but bark instructions and Ratty had to bail and row at the same time. "I'm in charge of rowing and I take full responsibility for it" said Ratty. The little black and white boat drifted further towards the weir. "I'm not panicking" said Ratty. "It's not in my nature to panic". McMole sang a merry song to keep everyone's spirits up and talked to the fish, who ignored him. At this point the Fat Toad said "Fuck this, this boating lark is harder than I thought" and leapt onto the bank clutching his hamper. "You've let me down, I'm very disappointed" he called to Ratty and McMole as the boat disappeared over the weir. The little black and white boat then smashed to pieces and Ratty and McMole were drowned. "Say what you like" said the big Fat Toad to anyone who'd listen "but boating with me is never boring." THE END

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At last, a poll that means something bluebiggrin.gif

Plan? :confused: We don't do plans, top clubs don't need 'em you see

He should be talking to Roeder and Roeder relaying the message to the players. Turning up at the training ground to bollock the players undermines the manager position. He's going to the training ground to bollock players that he will have made promises to regarding squad strengthening when he signed them. They would have every right to tell him to **** right off. Thats shite. At the end of the day, he's paying them £20,30, 40 k + to give everything they have for Newcastle United. The players arent doing that. So what if he promisedto strenghthen the squad and didnt. Does that mean they dont have to give 100%?? Piss off. If i was the gaffer of my own company, and i wa spaying good wages for people to do a job, and they werent, i would have every right to tell them what i thought. Its exact same situation. I can assure you that if my boss turned up to go over my head and tell my department that they weren't up to scratch, I personally would feel undermined, and the staff in my department would recognise that my boss didn't think I was doing my job properly. If you can't see that then fair enough, but you're wrong. All Shepherd is interested in here is getting his name in the papers as the man to sort this thing out. I agree with you but I also think Roeder will turn around, bend over and take it up the chufter as adn when the fat man demands

Don't forget Daum comes with his assistant Glaum bluebiggrin.gif

Would you prefer slapstick? bluebiggrin.gif FS: "Roeder these results are SHITE. I'm ganna pezzle ya". * Lurches round desk to grab hold of Roeder with arms outstretched. Slips on banana skin & lands with feet in air * FS: "Arrrrghhhh me arse !!!!!!!" * Roeder runs out of door * Aye. That worked better for me like. bluebiggrin.gif