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There's no way that the LMA would stay quiet and i see no reason why KK would.

I mean, i think we will hear the outcome tommorow.

Tommorow will be the day, although that is a guess. BTW, those who think they are talking about a "compensation packet". What the fuck are agents, Solictors and lawyers payed so much for. I can hardly see Ashley and Co talking about his serverance pay before telling the fans that he isn't the manager.

If that happens, it won't be because people ITK found out about it but because it is probably the most likely thing to happen anyway i.e a pure guess.

One man doesn't run a football club but one man should run team affairs including which players he wants playing for him. That man is the most important person at the football club because he determines whether or not we are successful. All other employees of the football club are there to support the manager, and that includes the chairman, director of football, scouts, contract negotiators, coaches, players, boot boy etc. That is why Keegan should be given exactly what he wants and needs if he is to do his job to the best of his ability. Ashley should say to Keegan 'this is how much you have to spend, this is our salary cap, all players purchased must be under the age of 26. Now off you go sunshine, go and bring us some silverware'. End of! Try telling AC Milan, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea that. None of them clubs run under the system you have just described, as well as half the clubs on the continent. The Chairmen of all of these clubs buy and sell player sbehind their managers' backs. Are you sure about that? Yes. These clubs sometimes buy players because of their name and reputation, not because of their position or value to the team. Shevchenko to Chelsea (bought for status) Shevchenko to Milan (bought by the chariman because of his relationship with the club) It happens all the time, it even happened at Barca whilst Bobby was their. There are paragraphs in his book about it. As well as while he was at Porto. The difference is that it is not called "behind their back". It's just the system. BTW, i'm saying it's the best system, i'm saying that it does exist. Old dogs like KK won't like it.

I don't know about you lot but i'm still fuming at setantas comentary of the arsenal game

Totally agree.

One man doesn't run a football club but one man should run team affairs including which players he wants playing for him. That man is the most important person at the football club because he determines whether or not we are successful. All other employees of the football club are there to support the manager, and that includes the chairman, director of football, scouts, contract negotiators, coaches, players, boot boy etc. That is why Keegan should be given exactly what he wants and needs if he is to do his job to the best of his ability. Ashley should say to Keegan 'this is how much you have to spend, this is our salary cap, all players purchased must be under the age of 26. Now off you go sunshine, go and bring us some silverware'. End of! Try telling AC Milan, Barcalona, Real Madrid and Chelsea that. None of them clubs run under the system you have just described, as well as half the clubs on the continent.

SSN are infuriating. They know nowt, yet claim to know everything. "Sky sports sources" "Finger on the pulse" "Friends of sky sports say" "What we are hearing" "News from within the club" "The information we have recieved" "Word around the ground" I can't remember the last time they got anything right, that wasn't already clearly obvious to us anyway.

There are so many different ways of looking at this situation, the problem is that we are all reading into it all far too much. Everything the club, LMA, the papers, SSN and the fans have said is been scrutinised to the final detail. I don't blame us for doing so as we love the club so much but TBH we are going around in circles. It's hard to determine the facts and even when we do it's hard to understand what they mean. The only thing we can hope for is that by the time we play Hull City there is some clarity and we stuff the bastards. It's amazing what 3 points can do for the aura of a club.

So where is this lad? Is he in training or is he with the U21's?

Aye, i was thinking he probably offers something our other players won't like.

So after all this discussion we are none the wiser, correct?

This: Given Beye Coloccini Taylor Enrique Butt Guthrie Jonas Zoggy Owen Martins I don't know enough about the new boys to judge. I also don't know whether barton is capable of recapturing his old form.

On the positive side (allegedly); Chelsea- Have a "foreign" set up and bought players over Mourihno's head, failed to land their number one target this summer. West Ham- Selling players over their managers head, manager resigned. Spurs- Have a "foreign" set up. Did Ramos really know who Alan Hutton was in the january window? (did he fuck) Liverpool- Not stumping up the cash for their main transfer targets, causing rifts throughout about "backing". Blackburn- Forced into selling two of their best players, Friedel and Bentley. Man City- I week ago they were the worst run club in the league. Disclaimer- This was merely an attempt to point out other clubs "similar" promblems and not in anyway a comparison to our problems or trying to create an excuse to those responsible for our problems

My main worry is that the LMA rumour is true and that Bevan, Keegan and Ashley are all at a meeting somewhere. If this is the case i fully expect us to hear; "Newcastle part company with Kevin Keegan by mutual consent".

One thing i will say is fair play to the club for actually "listening" to what KK has to say, which is clearly something they are doing. I hope a resolution can be found.

A wise man once said, "what do newcastle, sunderland and middlesbrough fans all have in common? They are all obssesed with Newcastle."

It is this love of NUFC and because he has some integrity as an individual human being that has more than likely (if he has) forced him into resigning or walking away. If KK feels he can't do his magic to the best of his ability he won't hang around like a bad smell hoping for things to fix themselves or to go with the flow, much less a pay-off ala Souness or Roeder. So what do you believe HTT. Staying or going?

if ashley only backtracked when he saw the fans reaction then there is no chance in hell that keegan will be here tomorrow, he would walk, as i believe he'll be here tomorrow, thats what i think. also, ashley is a fan himself, i still believe that, and there is no way he wants to see keegan gone. What i'd like to see: Both KK and Ashley/lliambias come out and tell the truth, from top to bottom. Tell us what happened, why it happened and how they are going to resolve. Presenting a united front. However, in todays climate, it will not happen.

I'm just confused about the whole thing from start to finish. Media, manager, chairman, board, fans and owner. I haven't a clue whats going on but i do want to scream.

Still think it's in the balance TBH. Hopefully the more talking there is the more likely he will stay. If KK had left and the club had no hope they would have said so by now.

I think it's this: Llambias and Keegan have an argument. Llambias tells Keegan he's fired. Keegan tells friends he's been sacked. Ashley finds out what Llambias has done. Ashley works to get Keegan to stay. I'm hoping Ashley pulls out all the stops to get KK to stay. I actually believe this theory from all the evidence presented.

However, i will praise the fans at the ground. Good to see them showing support to Keegan.

Well something has gone on, we know that. I hope he will still be our manager, it's vital that he stays.