Stevie

But he didn't reject Newcastle for Villa though, did he? As I said, he is widely considered to have done so, although the absolute truth is not known Widely considered by who? I don't doubt he turned the Newcastle job down, however it was well reported at the time he was holding out for the England job, we waited for him for so long while the FA dragged out the whole process but in the end we had to move on so we appointed Roeder. After that O'Neill failed to get the England job and made it known he was ready to step back into management, later that summer Villa were as good as taken over and O'Leary was swapped for O'Neill. Not once was he ever put in the position where he had to chose between Newcastle and Villa as both job opportunities came months apart, it would be fair to say he rejected the Newcastle job in the hope of him landing the England job though, would he have accepted the Villa job if the circumstances were the same as when he rejected the Newcastle job? My personal opinion is he wouldn't of but we'll never know. Is there ANY proof MON was offered the toon job at ANY stage? No there isn't, and I don't care what anyone says if he has a choice between the Toon and Villa, why would he go there? Honestly?

The true measure of a club is in how many fans they take to SJP, is it? You're obsessed, man, obsessed. Obsessed by what? Villa are inconsequential to me, but the fact is MO'N clearly states we're a bigger club than Villa, but stating the fact that, that's what where he wants Villa to be, howay it doesn't take a genious to work out.

But he didn't reject Newcastle for Villa though, did he? Exactly fuckin hell you don't turn Newcastle down for Villa. What next O'Leary turned Real Madrid down for yous?

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. What's your problem exactly? This is one of the most informed, entertaining and honest sites around for football chat, but you always seem one step away from an enormous argument and just look to provoke it. Turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? There's an enormous irony in that that I'd trust even you to work out. sorry, but I think Man City are a bigger fanbase club with better supporters than Villa too. Absolutely no question. I'll spell out the point you've managed to miss. Turn down Man City to go to Villa, he questioned. Well, forgetting Citeh, who is our current manager widely considered to have turned down? I haven't missed it at all. I said that I agree with the point Stevie appears to be making, which is that Man City have a bigger and better fanbase than Villa and are the bigger potential club. The fact that you are at the moment better off than city and they are in limbo and possibly about to undergo a change of owners, doesn't change that one iota Actually, you have entirely missed the point i was making, and focused on some other point of your choice which I didn't even mention. I never even mentioned the relative merits of Citeh and Villa. Stevie suggested that a manager would not turn down Citeh to go to Villa, and that this in itself is somehow proof that City are a bigger club than Villa (which, incidentally, by any measure other than recent attendances, they are not). I pointed out the irony that he (and subsequently you) had entirely missed the fact that MON turned down Newcastle and took the Villa job. If Stevie's original assertion is in any way valid, then he is effectively saying Villa are a bigger club than Newcastle. Can i make it any clearer than that? How the f*** do you know he turned the toon job down?? f****** hell, why would he come out and say this. Alan Oliver said MON was interested in the job via his Glasgow connections that was February but said we never even spoke to him, so it's not the same way. Leave this board you, you're an idiot, and waste of bandwidth, I could tell you more about Tottenham in 5 fuckin minutes than you know, never talking about other fuckin clubs. Edit** kingdawson you mong don't quote if you can't do it

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. What's your problem exactly? This is one of the most informed, entertaining and honest sites around for football chat, but you always seem one step away from an enormous argument and just look to provoke it. Turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? There's an enormous irony in that that I'd trust even you to work out. sorry, but I think Man City are a bigger fanbase club with better supporters than Villa too. Absolutely no question. I'll spell out the point you've managed to miss. Turn down Man City to go to Villa, he questioned. Well, forgetting Citeh, who is our current manager widely considered to have turned down? I haven't missed it at all. I said that I agree with the point Stevie appears to be making, which is that Man City have a bigger and better fanbase than Villa and are the bigger potential club. The fact that you are at the moment better off than city and they are in limbo and possibly about to undergo a change of owners, doesn't change that one iota Actually, you have entirely missed the point i was making, and focused on some other point of your choice which I didn't even mention. I never even mentioned the relative merits of Citeh and Villa. Stevie suggested that a manager would not turn down Citeh to go to Villa, and that this in itself is somehow proof that City are a bigger club than Villa (which, incidentally, by any measure other than recent attendances, they are not). I pointed out the irony that he (and subsequently you) had entirely missed the fact that MON turned down Newcastle and took the Villa job. If Stevie's original assertion is in any way valid, then he is effectively saying Villa are a bigger club than Newcastle. Can i make it any clearer than that? it is obviously the use of the word "bigger" which is confusing you. You appear to think that because Villa are currently higher in the table and a manager has turned down Man City, it makes them the "bigger" of the two. It does not. By the criteria of league position, Bolton are bigger than Newcastle, so why has their manager moved to Newcastle ? Did you think that Luton were bigger than Villa and Newcastle when they won the League Cup and finished higher than both Newcastle and Villa [although I wouldn't dispute they acted bigger than Newcastle in the past on occasions, in fact I won't even go there]. How big on those basis' did you consider Villa when you were in the 3rd division ? By "big" clubs, we mean clubs with the biggest, better support, and bigger potential. I believe Stevie said earlier "if clubs performed to their maximum". To be honest mate, and I hope you can take this in good spirit, because its a genuine comment. I would be ashamed to even think Newcastle were a big club if they took an away following to away games that Villa consistently get at Newcastle, even on the first day of the season when Shearer was sent off and Gullit was manager. You couldn't even sell 3,000 tickets. You appear to have missed the absolute and only reason I started this thread, but you aren't alone. NE5 they've never ever brung 3,000 here in my life time. They normally get three blocks at the most.

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. What's your problem exactly? This is one of the most informed, entertaining and honest sites around for football chat, but you always seem one step away from an enormous argument and just look to provoke it. Turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? There's an enormous irony in that that I'd trust even you to work out. sorry, but I think Man City are a bigger fanbase club with better supporters than Villa too. Absolutely no question. I'll spell out the point you've managed to miss. Turn down Man City to go to Villa, he questioned. Well, forgetting Citeh, who is our current manager widely considered to have turned down? I haven't missed it at all. I said that I agree with the point Stevie appears to be making, which is that Man City have a bigger and better fanbase than Villa and are the bigger potential club. The fact that you are at the moment better off than city and they are in limbo and possibly about to undergo a change of owners, doesn't change that one iota Actually, you have entirely missed the point i was making, and focused on some other point of your choice which I didn't even mention. I never even mentioned the relative merits of Citeh and Villa. Stevie suggested that a manager would not turn down Citeh to go to Villa, and that this in itself is somehow proof that City are a bigger club than Villa (which, incidentally, by any measure other than recent attendances, they are not). I pointed out the irony that he (and subsequently you) had entirely missed the fact that MON turned down Newcastle and took the Villa job. If Stevie's original assertion is in any way valid, then he is effectively saying Villa are a bigger club than Newcastle. Can i make it any clearer than that? How the fuck do you know he turned the toon job down?? Fucking hell, why would he come out and say this. It's basically an admittance we're a much bigger club, so if he had the opportunity to become our manager, why would he go to a smaller club. PFFFT some people.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really. Sorry stevie, he was Roma manager at the time. Yes but he was looking for another club, Roma were in the relegation zone at the time that article was published. He was as good as away, and all through the season was trying to engineer a move to another club. He achieved that at the end of the season when he went to Juventus. You really are pathetic, One minute you say "he didnt have a job", after you get proven wrong you come up with a new excuse. Stop acting as if you know everything only to be made to look like a clown ffs. Stop getting emotional kingdawson, I thought he was (like yourself) out of work, I knew there was some reason but couldn't remember what it was. People like him don't just declare their interest in nothing jobs unless their stock has fallen. So can you please tell me why Mourinho whilst still at Porto declared he's interest for the vacant spurs managerial position before eventually heading to Chelsea??? He even considered becoming Robson's assistant in 2002, so that means nothing. Actually it means a lot. He was a relative nobody during 2002 in comparison to 2004 where he's stock had risen considerably. Stevie you say O'Neil would never consider a club like Villa when a club like Manchester city come calling but didnt O'Neil reject Newcastle for Villa? No pmsl He was even quoted as saying this season Newcastle are the sort of club he wants Villa to be like.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really. Sorry stevie, he was Roma manager at the time. Yes but he was looking for another club, Roma were in the relegation zone at the time that article was published. He was as good as away, and all through the season was trying to engineer a move to another club. He achieved that at the end of the season when he went to Juventus. You really are pathetic, One minute you say "he didnt have a job", after you get proven wrong you come up with a new excuse. Stop acting as if you know everything only to be made to look like a clown ffs. Stop getting emotional kingdawson, I thought he was (like yourself) out of work, I knew there was some reason but couldn't remember what it was. People like him don't just declare their interest in nothing jobs unless their stock has fallen. So can you please tell me why Mourinho whilst still at Porto declared he's interest for the vacant spurs managerial position before eventually heading to Chelsea??? He even considered becoming Robson's assistant in 2002, so that means nothing. I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. What's your problem exactly? This is one of the most informed, entertaining and honest sites around for football chat, but you always seem one step away from an enormous argument and just look to provoke it. Turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? There's an enormous irony in that that I'd trust even you to work out. sorry, but I think Man City are a bigger fanbase club with better supporters than Villa too. Absolutely no question. Exactly, bigger fanbase than every club in this country bar Man Utd, Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal.

Little countries where people talk alike? They don't though tbh. The languages aren't even related to one another. I know but Sweden and Denmark are more closely linked than the other two, and Swedes/Danes were put in the same category, because they're more like party people, while a lot of Finns and Norwegians are seen as boring cunts. I'm just waffling but I'm sure there was another reason I put them together.

How's it bollocks, Grosvenor and Stanley won't let you in if you look like a bamp, simple as that. No dappers allowed neither. Stanley made me take off my hat before I went in. Felt that it was pretty odd. They need to get some proper card tables in there btw, left after about half an hour because there wasn't anything worth playing. Just a bunch of Chinese blokes playing blackjack. They're cunts mate, they banned me once because my mate who I signed in was pissed. Ant and Dec go in there occasionally though.

How's it bollocks, Grosvenor and Stanley won't let you in if you look like a bamp, simple as that. No dappers allowed neither.

It's funny what arselickers toon fans are when they're mortal drunk. I saw Taylor about 2 years ago in the Grosvenor Casino, and told him he was well on his way to being better than Franco Baresi.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really. Sorry stevie, he was Roma manager at the time. Yes but he was looking for another club, Roma were in the relegation zone at the time that article was published. He was as good as away, and all through the season was trying to engineer a move to another club. He achieved that at the end of the season when he went to Juventus. You really are pathetic, One minute you say "he didnt have a job", after you get proven wrong you come up with a new excuse. Stop acting as if you know everything only to be made to look like a clown ffs. Stop getting emotional kingdawson, I thought he was (like yourself) out of work, I knew there was some reason but couldn't remember what it was. People like him don't just declare their interest in nothing jobs unless their stock has fallen.

I agree. For true strength of a league look at the worst 3 or 4 teams. La Liga wins in this respect, I think Serie A is behind us though.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really. Sorry stevie, he was Roma manager at the time. Yes but he was looking for another club, Roma were in the relegation zone at the time that article was published. He was as good as away, and all through the season was trying to engineer a move to another club. He achieved that at the end of the season when he went to Juventus.

Sometimes when we say the Premiership is the best in the world we have to look at games like tonight. Espanyol are a mid table side and they'd comfortably be the fifth best in this country.

*Warns people that say they wear it for reasons other than the match that Gemmill will call them a mong* Tell me he didn't say that. To be honest, I never ever wear colours to the match, because if you decide to stay out afterwards certain bars won't let you in and clubs and the casino's definitely won't. Is wearing it playing football acceptable, or drinking on your patio getting pissed in the summer, or does that constitute inappropriate wear of a toon shirt too?

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong It is "vorrei lavorare", mate, no need for the "a". And "squadra" not "squadura", and moltissimo isn't used that way. They'd also be more likely to say "Il Manchester" rather than "l'United", it should also be "l'Arsenal". I'll let the other errors slip. If you're going to act clever, do it properly, like. Look I got a fuckin C in my GCSE Italian and that was 13 years ago. Anyway vaffanculo I'm betting that wasn't nice I've always been led to believe it's a coloquial Italian word for "greetings".

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really.

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong It is "vorrei lavorare", mate, no need for the "a". And "squadra" not "squadura", and moltissimo isn't used that way. They'd also be more likely to say "Il Manchester" rather than "l'United", it should also be "l'Arsenal". I'll let the other errors slip. If you're going to act clever, do it properly, like. Look I got a fuckin C in my GCSE Italian and that was 13 years ago. Anyway vaffanculo

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though.

What a sad c*** any c*** like me is who has nearly ONE THOUSAND POSTS. I can't be arsed reading them all but I estimate 80% of them will be complete bollocks. On an even sadder note kingdawson has posted 569 times on here over FOUR times as many as his posts on the Spurs board. I thought this site has unlimited bandwidth anyway?

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot.