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Definitely agree regarding Gerrard. I'm still not convinced by Rooney, but more-so than I was last month (before the Milan games and the final). Although tbh, it's not like Gerrard has carried Liverpool this year. They're a different team from the past couple of years, a team that doesn't need Gerrard to score 20+ goals for them to win trophies. I really would like to see Gerrard getting the permission to run the game for England from midfield, and Lampard dropped at the same time. Gerrard + Hargreaves = *drooling* Let's see next season though. I've yet to be convinced by Rooney over a whole season, and lately, harking by to what I said before in another thread, Ronaldo's been disappointing in the 'big' games (which totally puts my previous opinion of him to shame! ). Dunno which two I'd pick now. Form wise? Rooney. But a month ago it'd have been Ronaldo. One thing though, Manure are lucky as fuck to have those two playing for them.

Yea he said July 2nd. My bad. I inexplicably switched my months around. That gives him ample time man!

Remember though, he's not Roeder in the transfer market. He has scouts, contacts and whatnot placed around Europe. He'll have been doing scouting for Bolton since January (and possibly before that ie. the players he couldn't get in January), so he'll know exactly which players are good enough for us, which players that we need (LB, RB etc.) and which players he'll continue to scout etc. He's also pretty fast in the market, he won't need 2 months to sign a player for one position. Hasn't he also said he expects to complete the majority of transfers by June 2nd? That gives him ample time tbh. That's a month and a half away! We're in good hands people, relax!

This is a clause from the transfer last year wasn't it? That a friendly will be arranged between the two clubs? Yes, I think it was (although wasn't directly mentioned in the stock exchange news thing, it was more a gentleman's agreement).

Just looking at yesterday's team, they'll play the same formation, but just replace Fletcher with Hargreaves what an upgrade! The thing with yesterday's team was, they were already dominating the midfield. They just couldn't open up Chelsea's defence. Hargreaves gives them more options than Fletcher. He can tackle, he can pass, he has pace, he can shoot as well. He's also pretty good at set pieces. He has many attributes that Fergie can use to improve the way they play. It's not like they need to change their style of football. They played this formation against Milan (both games), so it shows that they're used to it (with Saha always being injured, they've had to become accustomed to this way of playing).

Rooney Scholes Giggs Ronaldo Carrick Hargreaves Maybe? Hargreaves the battler, the chaser. Running around after every ball in the midfield, then either giving it to the two wingers or driving the team forward. Carrick to be the one that takes the ball from the defence and tries to make something happen?

Thought Essien's last ditch tackles today saved Chelsea. Sure he was burned a few times by Rooney but who wasn't when Rooney was running like he was today?

Credit has to go to Lampard, Essien and Cech. Lampard was shite the whole game but the move with Drogba for the goal means he deserves at least a mention. Essien is just amazing. He was probably the only Chelsea player actually driving the team forward, even from central defence. Robben lit up the game for 10 minutes and then he turned into Joe Cole of the first half. Cech was steady, and that's basically just him.

Thought Vidic was class for the whole game. Dominated Drogba. Class move from Chelsea though, just a great move that won the game. Thank fuck Manure didn't win though I can barely stand their fans as it is.

I certainly hope Hodgson09 comes forward

just saw some of the comments on the articles in the front page. Fuck me people, can no one spot a blatant pisstake when it smacks you in the face and says 'hello, I'm a blatant pisstake'?!

I thought it was funny And I agree with the sentiment. Fred out!

My dad's got a bigger one..

Wasn't Cech a signing that someone higher up made? Same with Robben?

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong It is "vorrei lavorare", mate, no need for the "a". And "squadra" not "squadura", and moltissimo isn't used that way. They'd also be more likely to say "Il Manchester" rather than "l'United", it should also be "l'Arsenal". I'll let the other errors slip. If you're going to act clever, do it properly, like. Look I got a fuckin C in my GCSE Italian and that was 13 years ago. Anyway vaffanculo I'm betting that wasn't nice I've always been led to believe it's a coloquial Italian word for "greetings". If 'greetings' is actually 'fuck you asshole', then I believe you

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong It is "vorrei lavorare", mate, no need for the "a". And "squadra" not "squadura", and moltissimo isn't used that way. They'd also be more likely to say "Il Manchester" rather than "l'United", it should also be "l'Arsenal". I'll let the other errors slip. If you're going to act clever, do it properly, like. Look I got a fuckin C in my GCSE Italian and that was 13 years ago. Anyway vaffanculo I'm betting that wasn't nice

Andy's just fucking with everyone. Relax. LOST is on tonight so that's why he's up later than usual, being a school boy and all

Yes sir. Good player, certainly good enough for us.

Ah fucking son of a bitch! Come this far to lose it all *sigh*

If rumours circulating down here are true, there were figures of £12m at year 1, £9m or £9.2m at year 2 and £4m or £4.6m at year 3. They are only rumours so I've no idea if there is any truth in them at all. That was my original guess as well, a clause that declined the longer he stays. All of course depending on whether we qualify for Europe or not. If we did, the clause can't be activated, if we didn't (like this year), it can. Of course, you all have to bear in mind that Michael Owen himself has to say yes to everything.

Season's over. Holiday begins. Simple really.

I'm excited for next season already. Let's hope the backroom staff start arriving pretty soon (say next week), and then he can start working on videos and stuff of the team in the past season to assess the strengths and weaknesses of each player. And of course set up the training program for next preseason so when the players return, everything will actually be ready and good to go. I'm delighted about the timing of this, it'll give him some proper time to bed himself into the city, the surroundings and also give him time to make deliberate plans on how he's going to improve the different aspects of the club.

No chance. Allardyce deals with transfers in a very straightforward manner. And he likes to wrap things up very soon. The thing is, by the time Roeder decides which players he wants to scout, Allardyce would have already seen the boy 5 times and decided whether he's good enough or not, and if he isn't good enough, his plan B or C or D's agent would be on the phone with him.

Sounds really good.

Elaborate man! Come on! Word for word commentary needed.