LionOfGosforth

Cheaper wasn't he? 27m I seem to recall, good player.

Lovely finish and exactly what Everton deserver for their horrific, negative and dull football. As I type, they win their first corner, useless fuckers.

Everton with 0 corners after nearly 70 minutes . No wonder they haven't threatened a goal

If this was last game of the season with Everton needing the points to stay up, guaranteed they snake it 1-0. Can't see Arsenal not breaking through at some point today though. Everton's only hope is a counter or set piece, exactly what Dyche wants.

84-87, right in the middle of my formative years, they were exceptional. That's about it like

Dyche utterly delighted with this dirge.

Everton look a huge side like, no method though, all power and counter

Nice pass and finish. Everton have looked like a team waiting to concede since the first whistle. Utter losers.

Really want Everton to finally go down this year, feel like i've been saying it since 1994 when they spawned their way out of it against Wimbledon. They always look shit and yet somehow, there's always 3 teams worse.

Thought Poch would sort them out, and he might still in time, but this just illustrates perfectly the insanity of their model and why it generally just won't work.

You can argue that Gordon tries his best to engineer contact but this is basically it in a nutshell. If you don't want to give away a penalty as a GK these days, you don't go clattering after the ball when a collision with a forward is likely. It's just that simple. They get given nowadays and that's it.

Who's knee?

Not great. I don't know what we've been doing for 2 weeks like. Gordon looks good yet again but not much else to feel positive about. HWTL.

Me. Based on having good eyesight. Very true and easily arguable all day long. Fair point. I don't think it's an overreaction at all but time will tell. Think he's a genuinely bad manager and poor fit.

Confidence thing imo

Our game hadn't started yet

Sounds great. Apparently it's turgid, the fans are on the players backs and we're getting shredded. I have so missed our match day threads

Because one half decent performance in 4 games is considered ok or good now? For a club with your expectations, it's a terrible effort. And you know fine well bringing Howe into the discussion is completely disingenuous and not based on anything or intended to promote good discussion at all. We're in the very beginning of a slow build towards sustained success and most would know and recognize that. My initial comment was not based on 5 games either, you were quite poor for large swathes of last season too. Beaten comprehensively two seasons running by Brighton at home, we ran you out of town in convincing fashion, conceded 6 at City, 7 at Liverpool (most embarrassing result in living memory). Without microscopically or forensically watching your performances and with a fan's layman eye, I simply and genuinely don't see the basis for optimism around Ten Hag at all.

Understatement of the year

Well you were rubbish against Wolves, dreadful at Spurs, half decent at Arsenal, utter tripe today. Missed the Forest game and it took a crazy comeback to win it. So how would you describe your games then?

5 games and you've been utterly terrible in all of them. I think our expectations are radically different as clubs but Howe is 1 million percent supported by me and most sane individuals on this board.

Ten Hag is just going to go the same way as every single manager they've had since SAF. Initial optimism, giving way to grim realization he's not the answer, with a dash of refusal to accept it until another season is wasted for them.

Tune in to see how Minteh did, discover the latest news is TCD is gonna chin Jam. This forum never ceases to deliver in a big way.

The away crowd is typically excellent, has always been that way down the years. It's the sit-on-their-hands home crowd I worry about more, especially when the chips are down. Wish the home support had more of a bunker mentality every week and not just when Man Utd come to town.