Unbelievable

We haven't...?

I have opened a thread in which calculations were done based on the info we have available and the current view is that we can probably afford Guehi at around 60m and on wages of let's say 150k per week, but beyond that sales would be needed to fund further incomings in order to be PSR compliant. On the previous page it was suggested I should be renamed "piss on people's chips" for pointing out that we couldn't afford "more than a Madueke" to replace Almiron should he go. Another >50m player on massive wages adds another 15-20m cost, which is far more than Miggy costs us per year, so I pointed out that was highly unlikely. If you run the numbers you will find out for yourself that indeed it is. That's reality, not pessimism. Also people should be aware that should we spend to the max of our current PSR limit, let's say that net 100m for Hall, Osula and Guehi, then we may just about be PSR compliant for 2024/25 without sales, but our cost level would be such that there would hardly be any money available to strengthen the season after bar (again) siginificant new commercial revenue or player trading income. Again, that is just the reality of NUFC at the moment. We have a very good, but also very expensive squad and overall setup for the revenue we generate. So much so that should we qualify for CL it's going to be a pretty hard ask to comply with Uefa's FFP rules. We are sailing very close to the wind, as we should in order to close the gap with the established top clubs, and to keep sailing this course we may have to sell star players if the right offer comes in. Best be prepared for it and accept is as growing pains to get us to the very top.

I agree between Murphy and Almiron our RW is servicable and certainly not as bad as some would have you believe (especially considering Howe would want a player who can play a high press game), but I do wonder what better deal for what better player you think we'd be able to get than Madueke at the reported 30m Chelsea want for him, because that seems to me like a pretty damn good deal for a pretty damn good profile of player in our position?

I think much will depend on how much Eddie rates him. If he doesn’t want to lose Miggy a paltry offer won’t help to convince him.

Who would vote against it in this case..?

Wut

Don’t know. I know Stengs medical was in London so might be some truth to it if Almiron is down there too for discussions if that’s what you’re suggesting..?

It’s an odd move. He went to Nice from AZ Alkmaar, didn’t succeed, refound form at Feyenoord and nobody expected him to leave, let alone for the MLS.

Severely doubt it. If we get Guehi that’s pretty much it for this PSR yeat bar outgoings

Charlotte have just bought another right winger in Calvin Stengs from Feyenoord, so seriously doubt they’d be after Almiron

A 3 year older and indeed slightly more injury prone, but also more proven and more first team ready version of Minteh. I would say though what he did at PSV at a similar age was more impressive than what Minteh did at Feyenoord last season. I've wanted us to sign him before Chelsea did and would be delighted if we got him now, especially at that price.

He did aye. Don't think it's been a problem last year though, unless I've missed something?

We should be all over that if true. If it means not getting Guehi I'd revert to a cheaper, more unproven CB option with the potential to become a first teamer with time and coaching. Edit: TBR Football have been told that Chelsea are happy to sell the £50,000-a-week winger for £30m, which is the same fee the Blues spent to sign the 22-year-old from PSV Eindhoven back in January 2023. Sources believe the Londoner is willing to join Newcastle after Chelsea signed Neto, and an approach is expected to be made by the Magpies shortly.

Joelinton wouldn't fetch what he's worth to us imo. Willock and Barnes I doubt we'd turn a significant profit on, and hence wouldn't allow for the hypothetical scenario I presented of splashing over 100m this window to strengthen the first XI in RCB and RW. Of course I'd also rather sell a Barnes or a Willock than a Gordon or a Bruno, but the numbers would need to work.

I think it's either not getting that upgrade in both CB and RW you mentioned, or sell to buy. For me in order of who I'd loath to lose most of the big three it would be 1) Isak, 2) Bruno, 3) Gordon. If Liverpool came in and offered >100m for the latter I'd accept knowing it will be re-invested into the first team and the some.

I think Trippier would start if he was fully fit, but he's returned late from international duty and holidays, so would expect Tino to get the nod based on that.

What if the plan would be to bring in both Guehi and someone like Madueke but expecting to then sell a Bruno or Gordon later in the season (June after the season ends or January is a bid too good to refuse comes in) to remain PSR compliant whilst creating some headroom for a replacement and further strengthening next summer? That would be something I could get behind if it means we'd have a realistic shot at CL for the season after. We can't be too precious about selling players when their stock is high if we want to progress.

Fully expect the below based on fitness and easing in new players: Pope Tino Schar Burn Hall Longstaff Bruno Joelinton Murphy Isak Gordon Bench: Dubravka, Trippier, Kelly, Krafth, Willock, J. Miley, Almiron, Barnes, Osula

That post was a pisstake right..? Surely nobody would suggest "Odysseas Vlachodimos - Greek international and Champions League player, we managed to get rid of Elliott in the process of signing this lad so win-win." and be serious?

We had Lyon and Brighton offering upwards of 30m, with Dortmund interested too if rumours are to be believed, but you don't think Howe and the coaching staff would have had a look to see if he could be the answer to our weakest XI position before shipping him out for another loan? Which club in our position even considers loaning out >30m rated assets? I think the lad is already better than many on here think. It's going to be very interesting to see how he develops at Brighton. Edit: Brighton have just posted a "Minteh cam" video of his game against Villareal. He's made for the PL.

Wow, so what happens next with him? Made to train with the U21's again?

Yeah sorry, I don't agree with that at all. As I've often said, I don't dislike Almiron and Murphy nearly as much as most on here, but with good coaching Minteh has all the tools to be a massive upgrade on them. He'd perhaps have been brought slowly as is customary under Howe, but by the end of the season he would have been our starting RW and we'd feel we'd be settled in that position for years to come, similar to what happened last year with Hall.

We paid his previous club for the right to call him ours, and we paid his wages. He was a Newcastle player and if we didn't have to sell due to PSR there would be every chance we'd be feeling pretty comfortable with our RW options after pre-season. People are happily pointing to the emergence of Jamie Miley and Sanusi as strengthening us. Neither has played a competitive game for us either. Can't have it both ways. I understand selling Minteh was a good deal we had to do and it's easier to accept for fans as there was no emotional attachment yet, but to suggest we didn't lose a player in Minteh is simply wrong. Compared to last season you could say no difference, but then you'd have to say we bought a talented young RW who looked like he could displace our current RW options this transfer window and then proceeded to immediately to sell them for a profit, so far not looking to bring in another RW player to strengthen our weakest position in the starting XI.

If you count Tonali as a new player yes, but that would be odd. Might as well say we're no stronger in CB and CF because Botman and Wilson start the season out injured. Players will not be available all the time. Tonali was a squad member last season only unavailable for the majority of it. That might happen again this season with a key player.