Unbelievable

He'll be class for them and join Madrid in a 40 million move inside two years.

I hope so, for his sake. What a good loan move this turned out to be.

Wow, good goal

That Southampton squad is midtable at best tbh

Nice goal

Pardew's puppet: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-taylor-confident-adam-armstrong-8349848 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steven-taylor-says-back-back-8350222 Typos courtesy of North East sports journalist of the year.

No way

I have gone on record before he signed saying he wasn't going to be a success, but I'm quite astonished to read so many posts on here saying he's s*** and never played well for us. Are you suffering from collective amnesia? Just to jog some of those brain cells: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,92469.msg4048313.html#msg4048313 (read on from here up until page 145 spanning more than a month) Then again here: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,92469.msg4660459.html#msg4660459 (up to page 205 at least, spanning four months) Simple fact is that he has had good patches and bad patches, has been unfairly dropped at times and what it all boils down to, he just isn't a Pardew player at all, simply because we are not a team trying to play football. Will go on the same scrapheap as the rest of the Pardew rejects, so probably join some CL club for less than we paid for.

Dortmund another success story without huge outside investment. It's just a shit argument really.

I remember our resident mackems saying similar (well except for the passing bit) a week ago. It is hard to underestimate how shit Pardew has us playing. Sadly, our position in midtable suggests we should be much better than we are in reality.

Gylfie

Yep.

This game

Dat bounce

Hull

Dat defending

Yeh, hate when people say it's the cowards way out. That's not what LIIWBY is saying though, is it? I agree with him that (attempting to) commit suicide by causing an accident involving innocent others is not, on the face of it, a very social thing to do. However, it is also clear that people who do this are not thinking straight, so it's hard to judge really. I saw a very moving documentary the other day about a girl who was going to commit suicide and that followed her preparations. She planned the whole thing meticulously, said goodbye to her father and friends (who knew what she was planning) and finally overdosed in exactly the way she had planned. Suicide is always painful of course for everybody involved, but if people feel they are better off that way, I think this is a much more 'honourable' approach. I can not imagine how I would feel if my wife and kids perished in an accident caused by somebody committing suicide. Was this girl terminally ill? No. 20 year old girl suffering from depression. So the documentary crew just stood on and filmed it and watched instead of helping or trying to prevent it? Wasn't a film crew, just the documentary maker with her camera. Also, they obviously didn't film the actual suicide, they filmed the weeks of preparations proceeding it, interviewing her father and friends etc. The documentary maker and father appeared on a Dutch television show too explaining why they had done it, and it was quite moving and understandable to be honest. The project was called "I am letting you go" (in Dutch), and that is exactly what it was. This is the (English text) website of the project: http://bnnz.nl/projecten/ik-laat-je-gaan/en/ That is grim. Wrong on so many levels. How so? That someone has made a documentary film about a young girl's plans to kill herself rather than trying to save her and get her some help. The girl in question was 27, sufffering from borderline personality disorder, chronic depression and insomnia, and had received 9 years of intensive treatment to no avail. She made an informed decision, asked and received support from her loved ones and decided to go along with a short documentary being made of her situation in the hope it could benefit others in the same position. You make it sound like this was a teenage girl taking pills in her school's lavatory and being filmed by a fellow student while she was doing it.

I take your point KI, but surely somebody who for example flings themselves in front of a train on a busy platform, or drives their car into oncoming traffic would be aware of the consequences, not only for themselves but also for other people involved? I understand at that point in time the person (attempting to) commit(ing) suicide is probably not capable of such judgement calls, but then again I presume they wouldn't have felt this urge without a long period of contemplating it. I think this is where the self-euthanasia from the documentary I referred to comes in. In the past decades, medically assisted euthanasia has become more accepted in the Western world (certainly over here in Holland anyway), but it remains a very difficult subject, with anybody helping another person in their suicide attempt liable to criminal charges. In my opinion, euthanasia should be a viable option not only for people who suffer physically, but also those who suffer mentally to the point that they feel their life is not worth living anymore, and after (sufficient) professional treatment has proven to be ineffectual.

Beautiful!

Dear me. I don't think he's ever seen Siem de Jong play if he fancies him to be our new #c_____klaxon

It's pretty evident that there is more than one person to blame for what's become of this club like.

Southampton do sign some good players. He was a talented player, but he has lost his way completely. Not expecting much.