Unbelievable

Wow, I thought you were yet to propose?

This thread has gone ever so slightly off topic and has improved tenfold as a result..

I'd prefer CRonaldo please Mike

http://phone.widgetsradar.com/uploadfiles/phonewidgetsradarcom-1348082966/calmdown-for-mac-encourages-you-to-relax-step-away-from-the-keyboard_1.jpg Perfect It also brings literally nothing to the table. Sitting back and taking pop shots at peoples points without actually making any of your own is f***ing easy to do but ultimately worse for this thread than the tiresome 3 day debate. I think I've contributed substantially to the debate thank you very much, whether you agree with my point of view or not. I'm not entitled to find something funny now?

Is the only positive

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Happy Face, tbh it's you who is in the wrong here man. You're trying to see things through both sides and points of views but for me it's clear you don't know football. Most on here are very informed and knowledgeable from watching football from leagues all over the world who have seen other teams play 100 times and therefore have built there opinion on other than Newcastle. I've in my lifetime very rarely seen football played in such a cowardly manner as under Pardew. I have a family who we all grew up with football, I don't know how many times I have had to sit through Newcastle games even last season with criticism for Pardew. It was obvious last season and it's even more obvious this season. He can't adapt, he can't change and he can't manage a football club at the highest level. I'll be happy to be proved wrong, but that is dependant on him learning from mistakes which from his interviews is clear he doesn't see them as that. I think most on here have come to realize this and it's not weird we want the best for the club. To say we have been massively unlucky this season is also proof of being excessively lucky last season. This season we have had a fair few lucky moments in our favour too, Figueroa being harshly sent off, Evertons goal not counting while we've also had some unlucky and terrible refereeing calls. In the end we have a team good enough not to depend on decisions and something Pardew has not done. No one expects someone new to come in and make Mike Williamson play like a classy CB, but you look around the league and world and you have a lot of managers adapting players to their tactics and helping them improve while we have a manager who has stagnated players at our disposal. Last week* I had this discussion with Inochi and he refused to see it the same way as me and I respect that, but before Ben Arfa came into the side last season we won very few points, had we not had a great start to the season or had Benny come into the team to save us we'd probably have finished around the same. Credit where it's due though Pardew did get the team to play efficiently and that's why I've many times compared him to someone like Sven Göran Eriksson. Both have this inability to makes changes for the good, to see their blatant mistakes and try to correct them. If Sven managed us I'd see the exact same problem. It's a conservative style of football with no back up plan if it fails. Luckily for Sven his style worked for him many times, but it was very obvious it didn't always work. I'll never forget the 2002 world cup quarterfinal and I'll be forever thankful for England having Sven as a manager. Brazil up 2-1 with a man less with 20-25 minutes to go absolutely dominated the ball, England had no idea what to do when they were in advantage player wise. Instead of looking for a win they were left confused when a player like Roberto Carlos stole the ball, ran the length of the pitch, stopped, looked back and passed it back around to the defenders in a way not to lose the ball. I saw the same with him against other teams at World Cups. Pardew falls into the same category for me but obviously at a lesser level. With that said many managers can play defensively and still be good managers, look at Ancelotti, Capello, Tite etc. More boring styles of play are hard to find but they have a system in place and believe in their philosophy. You also have to Loco ones like Tele Santana, Bielsa etc. Drawing a conclusion from this, it's beyond me how anyone can be surprised that 95% (w/e that number came from) are completely against the bloke, but I can promise you HF that we will all be hoping he changes over the summer if his still here. tl;dr... Wat?

Not this s*** again What's wrong there? just pointing out goal to games ratios shouldn't be a key factor when looking at eredivisie players. It doesn't mean there aren't any good players there, the best forwards currently in this league came from there but it isn't an indication of a good striker. A bit like Scotland Your post started off so well too.. In all seriousness, of course not all strikers who do well at Eredivisie level will do well at the Premiership level, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that it is an excellent hunting ground for attacking talent. People often use the argument you just made, by pointing at a few examples, and conveniently forget that not every transfer even between Premiership clubs is a success for the buying party (for ex: Carroll to Liverpool). Sometimes a move doesn't work out, it happens, which is not to say the performance that earned the player the move is in any way compromised or overrated (again I would like to point at AC9 as an example).

Not this shit again

Congrats brummie, bye Wigan

4 assists for Cazorla according to FF, is that right?

Dutch commentator going on about how "sympathetic" Wigan are. Fuck right off!

Except we scored 3 Aye, but we also played shortly before whereas Arsenal had a rest, and it showed later in the game when we just couldn't keep up despite looking decent value for a result earlier in the match.

Getting picked apart now. Match reminds me of our visit to the Emirates this season

Scharner

Bye Wigan you bunch of cunts

FFS

Would be absolutely ridiculous. Knowing it was Harps in goal vs an Arsenal side needing to win. I'd probably have a heart attack every time Wigan crossed the halfway line..

Wow, end to end stuff now.. Good watch this, if your club's survival doesn't depend on it..

Damn, hand ball

Wow, good save Whateverhisnameis

Mackems just shat themselves..

YES!!!

He'll be a transfer target for the mackems without a doubt.