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That away shirt was really, really shit in general. All of the Adidas stripes on the sleeves peeled off at some point. Cheap garbage. NSG... do you have any idea whether or not they're plastic again or embroidered on?

I'm really gutted that no one picked up on my insanely amazing figment of knowledge about the pre 1900 shirts. I was well chuffed with that.

I once cut my nipple on one of the away shirts, on the Newcastle badge. The one from a couple of years ago with the dark blue and black graduated stripes. Made my left nip really saw cos of the rough texture.

Utter bullshit. It was a nonsense line-up. To keep Dyer in midfield, and to keep Sibierski upfront, after the uber-ineffectiveness from the whole attacking line-up on Thursday night, was absolutely idiotic. Away from home aswell. And Emre on the left ahead of N'Zogbia? Jesus Christ.

If i like it, i'll buy it. I'm not bothering with this pointless stop-spending-your-money protest, because it won't work. We're too loyal, remember. SkySports News said so. But seriously, if i do like it - i will buy it. I enjoy wearing the shirts with me name on the back.

Yes - that IS the one people are referring to.

It's in this thread, a couple of pages back.

Aye, that's fair enough BD. Good post in fairness. Still. Which is the absolute truth.

Where'dya get that, Dave? It's not on the site yet...

As Newcastle West End, we wore thin red and blue hoops, circa 1881. We wore red and white stripes as Newcastle East End. I bet even NE5 didn't know that, even though he was right-back for West End.

I think the SBR/Solano relationship was a bit weird, tbh. Presumably SBR's plan was to move Dyer to the right with Ambrose as understudy: but that didn't exactly work out! Yeah, he explained it in his autobiography. He got rid of Solano because he said he had Dyer, Ambrose and Bowyer who all could play there. Was correct in theory, but the truth was, all three of them were, really, centre-midfielders.

Incidentally, in that January of 03/04, we sold Nobby off.

Too many people forget that we signed Woodgate for £9m in the January though. No we didn't. We signed him in the year we finished third, 02/03.

But to answer, the 04/05 season was just utter dogshit, and the loss to Sporting was the worst thing i'd ever experienced as a Newcastle fan. I wasn't really old enough to understand the title capitulations.

We had faltered in that season where we finished fifth because Bobby made no signings during the summer. He didn't build on it... or so you'd think. He was building a squad through experience. He only made one change to the squad, bringing in Bowyer, because we had three or four very promising younger players coming through. He was really on his way - the Ambroses, the Taylors, the Bellamys, etc. The team were going to win nothing that particular season because it wasn't ready to. It would have been though, more so, in the 04/05 season and beyond, where he stupidly got sacked. He was building the team into something that would have been really good, bringing in the likes of Milner, Kluivert and Zoggy that summer, but got sacked and Souness ruined it cos he was shit. I'd have loved to have seen that team and those players develop under Bobby.

And the collar was the most uncomfortable thing ever. Yeah - this especially. Manky kit that. The number was in a shield wasn't it. And the Newcastle Brown logo, Adidas badge and crest were all on top of the other. Looked shit. Not against a panel for the number, just hope it's not a plain back. Looks really, really bad that. I have a real interest for football kits, it's just a hobby of mine. My father owns a football merchandising business, which has a lot to do with it. Sponsors and standard designs have just ruined the essence of some kits, which have such an enormous history, and it's really sad to see them ruined by stuff like flat backs. Crap. Would hate to see us go that way. Ruins the 'history' and just looks shite anyway.

No it wouldn't, because i'd like to see Roeder stay anyway. Can't see anything special materialising from another managerial change - we're in an even far worse position that we were at the beginning of this season, when we were in Europe, and we couldn't get anyone good then. I've stated my reasons for why i'd like to see Roeder stay. Largely basing it on hope/faith, granted, i'd just like to see him have another crack at the transfer window (i believe that he won't make the same mistakes again), get his own squad and see out his contract. If we're going nowhere by then, just let him go. There's no time limit in football, i'm prepared to wait. He's done a decent job at steadying the ship. It took Bobby three years to get us where we should have been after all. And we won't have the distraction of Europe next year either, which will be a bonus.

Would fucking hate that. Sheffield United/Reading/all that lot - looks absolutely shit with plain backs. Where did you hear that?

Meh.

Love him to pieces but i still think a lot of people think Oba is something he isn't. Me included in the past. He's done remarkably well this season, but probably still a way off being one of the best in the Premiership. Give him a year or so's more time, though, and it wouldn't surprise me if he would be.

£6 off then. Wowsar.

Speaking of which... NSG... do you know anything about the away top?

5 points. Draws at Charlton and Pompey, with a win at Watford.

There were some leaked pics?

Good result for us, that. A win would be avery valuable tomorrow. Draw - pointless. Loss - unacceptable.