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He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. If people have a problem with the third line, try answering the first two? He will when the club is sold, since it's a loan rather than out of his own pocket. He'll get all of the money when the club is sold, regardless of the capital structure. It belongs (100%) to him. So how has he put 100m in? He's put £100m of his own money into his own company via a directors loan. He could have issued further share capital, I've previously explained on here the reasons for that not being the best way to do it, I can dig out the link if you want it (that's a genuine offer, not me being flippant). Regardless of which way he has done it though, 100% of the sale proceeds will be going to him, the fact that it's structured as a loan is pretty much irrelevant tbh. The 100m is totally his fault cause he didn't look properly at what he was getting into. Stop using phrases like "he's put in"...He hasn't it was part of a technical requirement of the takeover. He'd put nowt in if he could as you well know.

What are they actually doing to the club? Wheres the long term plan in all this? Supposing they get there way and Ashley leaves - then what? I havent heard them mention once what happens after that. If Ashley just "leaves" and takes his £100m loan back and refuses to underwrite the clubs debts for the next accounting period then the answer is easy, the company that is NUFC is technically insolvent (unable to pay its debts when they fall due) and would with need to bring in administrators. I don't think you understand company law. He can't "leave" after creating his own debt structure.

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. If people have a problem with the third line, try answering the first two? He put £100m extra in because he failed to do his due diligence. His fault. And sadly indicative of the unprofessionalism that was to follow in his running of the club. In a nutshell.

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. If people have a problem with the third line, try answering the first two? He will when the club is sold, since it's a loan rather than out of his own pocket. He'll get all of the money when the club is sold, regardless of the capital structure. It belongs (100%) to him. So how has he put 100m in?

That was his specialty 'cuntspeak'. A more advanced version of what Orwell came up with?

That was his specialty 'cuntspeak'.

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. If people have a problem with the third line, try answering the first two? I answered it on the last page muppet.

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website. Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic. Turn up to the next one and enlighen people. I'm sure you're a right clever bastard. The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on. NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group. We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward. If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they? Do you understand the concept of joining up and having your say? Or going to the meeting as a non-member and having your say? Making sure that the alternative view is heard? As long as all you lot that say "Ooooo well they don't represent my views" continue to NOT JOIN, then they'll never represent your views. It's not fucking rocket science. "If they come up with something constructive". While you sit and do what? Scoff at everything, call them all thick fuckers, and presumably you're sat with all the answers in your head? By the way, Mike Ashley's current running of NUFC is the biggest single concern for me as a fan of the club at this minute. And he's making a fucking awful job of it imo. So I can kind of understand why Mike Ashley is the big issue on the agenda for a NUFC Supporter's Club. Yup.

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. Aye and you're the fucking clever one sat picking faults on a website. Genuine fans of the club bothering their arse to try and have a constructive and meaningful debate about the current situation, and this is the level of your craic. Turn up to the next one and enlighen people. I'm sure you're a right clever bastard. The first two lines of my post are the important ones & they are also the two you've not commented on. NUSC at present is an Ashley pressure group. We'll see what comes out of tonights meeting in terms of what they want to do going forward. If they come up with something constructive then fair enough, but the signs haven't been good so far have they? Cause this is a really easy situation isn't it?

He's put over £100m in, chances are he won't be getting any return out for fucking years. All reducing the revenue streams will do is reduce the funds available for players & reduce chances of him finding a buyer. They really are a bunch of deluded, self-important thick fuckers. No he's tagged the 100m on the sale price hence no buyers. Pipe down a bit.

"Biggest difference we can make is by hurting his pocket....Dry up his money stream etc...ticket sales etc...Good contribution.

Debate about hitting Ashley "in his pocket". Charging vat on DD's point of contention.

One day at a time, these things take time. They already have good relationships with serious national papers inc Times and Telegraph.

They will have someone at the meeting. Par for the course.

Great idea to have the audio stream.

Working well. The Times bloke is there and some bloke from the Mirror touching base.

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Who agreed the wages for Catnapper, Fatuka and Smith?

I also think that bans should only affect the competition in which the offence was committed. 6 point deduction sounds right.

There was no proof of that in the short-term. Infact didn't KK come in and then say that the players were all unfit? I give up.

There was no proof of that in the short-term. Well he did hire 500,000 people to do it. Still no proof it was working in the short-term as we still had just as many as we normally do under him. His methods at Bolton were proven over the long-term, which may have been the case here. But there certainly wasn't any short-term benefits happening. You and your short term eh. Projection I calls it. "On the way to..." ie He was looking at it.

There was no proof of that in the short-term. Well he did hire 500,000 people to do it.

Same here. This is one area SA was on the way to solving.

Then blame Spurs fan Ashley if they don't get points deducted. My sides are splitting.

Or maybe realism ? Realistically, (and to use something similar to what someone else said) we don't even have our head in the noose at the minute never mind having it tightened and the stool kicked away. We decide our own fate, and we can certaintly do alot as a club to remove ourselves from this position. I must admit, I myself am far from a realist, I'm an optimist as people have probably gathered by now. However, I am also of the opinion that optimism is a massive factor in what makes us human beings achieve. Where the f*** would we be if everyone said "ah no we just cannot make it" or "that's it, it's a certain failure...no point in trying". True Faith never seem to give any of the positives in these articles at the moment, or even if they do they manipulate it to slate something else. What positives. No, we haven't got our heads in the noose, but so far we've gone from Sitting in the living room eating crisps to standing on a stool with noose in hand. Logic dictates that if we've gone this far, we're eventually going the whole way. In the near future if not this season immediately. We seemed to have stability at this club for the first time in a long, long while for a short period before one little thing started going wrong, immediately triggering a chain reaction that's piled up into a clusterfuck of epic proportions, like a single car breaking down on the highway triggering a thirty-car pileup. You really couldn't make it up. Only at NUFC. We've been flung into the abyss, and while we may not be dead and buried yet, we're stuck into a course that inevitably leads to total destruction. It's like the title of the article: "knife slits water," a feeling of total hopelessness, just watching us slowly die. Watching this club right now is like watching someone who's just passed over the event horizon of a black hole. We all know what's coming next. What? Hundreds of physicits around the world would love to know.