Parky

Ideally NUFC will bankrupt Ashley and we'll get bought cheap by a mega- owner. Sorry thinking up nonsense like this keeps me going.

That's still $30 million on top of £40 million he's put in just to keep the club going on top of £70 million to pay off debts racked up by Shepherd and co. on top of the £1.1 billion hit he's taken in the banking meltdown. These are huge sums. Serves him right.

Yes.

It doesn't help that JK keeps broadcasting our problems to the world every time he speaks. How the fuck will that help to attract players or keep the squad motivated?

From reading between the lines of JK's latest post match debacle, he now realises there might not be any money for players of significance (ie decent). The rocking from side to side as he talks, the sad look in his eyes...Ain't good.

with the latest headlines suggesting that Geremi was being flogged yesterday day-time, but it fell through, then he's being made to play away at City during shit times and form. Just goes to show what's contributing towards putting these players down mentally. They all have there eye on another club (or a move) or they are effected by how shit things are right now. On who? Who will come? JK: "My hands are tied".

I'm beginning to doubt we will spend anything this window.

We will be relegated unless we spend heavily and with intelligence in what remains of the window, which it looks like we wont. I changed my vote from a 5 to a 10.

"My hands are tied". Joe Kinnear.

Actually that was one of my pet theories and could well have some truth in it.

Buy some fucking players or go down.

The irony is of course, that the player who should replace Owen has missed more than half of our games this season himself. He'll be back and he'll keep us up don't worry about that. Owen has been nothing without him in the team and is injured yet again! He's been injured his whole time here. Do you realise this? Your efforts to compare Martins injuries to Owen's are so wrong. Owen is done. The line has been drawn tonight. It's over. Time to move on. The last year since he's got over the two freak injuries, he's been as fit as any other player in the squad. He has been a disastrous signing and throughout his time at Newcastle it has just been an uncomfortable experience. Ironically it has now ended as it has mostly been with Owen. Yet another "freak injury". Played too much when he was younger syndrome. You may be right. Some signs of the same thing happening to Rooney already. Yup.

The irony is of course, that the player who should replace Owen has missed more than half of our games this season himself. He'll be back and he'll keep us up don't worry about that. Owen has been nothing without him in the team and is injured yet again! He's been injured his whole time here. Do you realise this? Your efforts to compare Martins injuries to Owen's are so wrong. Owen is done. The line has been drawn tonight. It's over. Time to move on. The last year since he's got over the two freak injuries, he's been as fit as any other player in the squad. He has been a disastrous signing and throughout his time at Newcastle it has just been an uncomfortable experience. Ironically it has now ended as it has mostly been with Owen. Yet another "freak injury". Played too much when he was younger syndrome.

There is something wrong with Owens body, maybe played too many games when he was younger.

Considering the side we had out, I thought we gave it a pretty good go and if Owen had stayed on we might have got summat.

They weren't quick enough apparently.

Interesting ... After we signed Colccini and Jonas Ballague was on revista raving about our new scouts and the contacts they had in Spain and therefore our ability to identify and sign both players. He also said that it was a setup a lot of Spanish managers would be interested in working under. Working in the PL is a huge pull to most managers around the world. I have no doubts that with the correct approach we can get a top coach. The game changer of course is that they will want transfer funds.

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it does that not apply to every nigerian player, ever? Racist. fuck, again? i watched the obama inauguration too, thought that absolved me must try harder, must try harder...!

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it does that not apply to every nigerian player, ever? Racist.

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it Can't see Sunny getting upto much under the PL cosh.

Carthorse.

The club needs a top coach.

what have you got against Tories ? Do Labour, Liberal, BNP, UKIP mp's, or even Mike Ashley, always answer straight questions ? I've told you, the Halls and Shepherd did a great job, they left the club unrecognisable and a million miles superior to how they found it, I wouldn't call that "blame", I would call it a great credit. Sir you are a baboon then. If you believe perilously close to bankruptcy through bad management and mortgaging the club beyond belief with a bank which needed to be bailed out by the government itself was a fantastic thing then you are just mad. I cannot disagree that the football was great, but had Shepherd remained in charge we would have been bankrupted. Your head in the sand attitude and deluded belief that Freddy Shepherd was not a bad apple who was stinking out the barrel at Newcastle is astonishing. Sir John Hall had a vision for this club, which his son and Freddy Shepherd distorted and abused to make their own financial gains. While we are certainly miles away from where we were prior to Sir John Hall's intervention, it is laughable that you continue to stand up for Freddy Shepherd, a man who most others lost any respect they had for him when he was caught out by the NOTW with his contempt for his peers and his customers. rubbish. mackems.gif Did you see many protestors standing up for their principles a few months after that "contempt for his peers and customers" when FA Cup Final tickets were being dished out, for the first time in 24 years, I may add. When do you think the automatically better board will reach another Cup Final or even qualify for the UEFA Cup ? Under Mike Ashley I don't think we will. But you keep on telling yourself that Freddy was a top bloke, and wasn't bothered first and foremost with lining his pockets from the money he could make from Newcastle United. I think Freddy Shepherd has a nerve telling anyone how to run Newcastle United as a successful business. you find a post where I have said he was a "top bloke". Apology accepted. None given. So will you now please answer my question. Is Freddy Shepherd (at least partially) responsible for Newcastle's financial state? Why can you not answer this yes or no? Why can't you stop waffling on about other things? What are you talking about ? The saleable value of the club increased from 1.25m to anywhere between 100m and 200m quid while they ran it ? Maybe you should go back to the financial statement thread and re-read it if you cannot understand what I am asking you about. I think you should look at the league positions I posted and the history of the club if you don't understand exactly how much better off the club became while the Halls and shepherd ran it. Thank you I know exactly what happened with the club when Sir John Hall came in. I can remember what it was like before he came in. And I know what happened when Sir John Hall and Freddy Shepherd were here in regards of football. I also know that Fred Shepherd mortgaged the club to the hilt and he was lucky not to financially ruin the club. I know that Mike Ashley was not the only person to look at the books with a view of taking over the club, but the mess Freddy Shepherd had made with the finances put everyone else off. I don't need a history lesson, but you need a reality check! So, it's a mystery to you that the top 4 have massive debt?? man utd's is dropping dramatically, chelsea are fucked should abramovic walk away,arsenal have had to redefine their plans and liverpool are trying to sell up. So you admit it takes massive expenditure and debt risk to gain a chance at success? And when massive expenditure and debt buys only a steady decline until there's nothing left to borrow against? Not as simple as that is it. People come into these threads (not you) saying FS is a cunt, KK is a cunt, Wise is a cunt etc...it's more complex than that (as you know). Sometimes little things go against you (Luque's career threateing inj or Boumsong being half decent) and history can be re-written. And sometimes throwing money at the problem only makes things massively worse, if there's consistently poor decision-making in other areas. And that ain't that simple either. What was Coloccini? Youth? Or a cheap buy? I agree just throwing money at it is no good without a proper strategy in place and football men running the club (Ashley has failed here totally). Actually keeping KK in place with even a reasonable spend of say 25m net would have seen us having a respectable season. Collo is a reasonable buy and one tiny step in the right direction, but then you have to weight Xisco and Nacho against that. Let's not foget who ok'd the silly wages of Smith, Crappa et all either....Ashley and Wise oversaw all that debacle as well. Now their last hope is to throw mud at the previous regime and make out high wages etc is a Newcastle problem...It's a PL problem. It doesn't even seem to me like MA has learn't anything over his time here.

what have you got against Tories ? Do Labour, Liberal, BNP, UKIP mp's, or even Mike Ashley, always answer straight questions ? I've told you, the Halls and Shepherd did a great job, they left the club unrecognisable and a million miles superior to how they found it, I wouldn't call that "blame", I would call it a great credit. Sir you are a baboon then. If you believe perilously close to bankruptcy through bad management and mortgaging the club beyond belief with a bank which needed to be bailed out by the government itself was a fantastic thing then you are just mad. I cannot disagree that the football was great, but had Shepherd remained in charge we would have been bankrupted. Your head in the sand attitude and deluded belief that Freddy Shepherd was not a bad apple who was stinking out the barrel at Newcastle is astonishing. Sir John Hall had a vision for this club, which his son and Freddy Shepherd distorted and abused to make their own financial gains. While we are certainly miles away from where we were prior to Sir John Hall's intervention, it is laughable that you continue to stand up for Freddy Shepherd, a man who most others lost any respect they had for him when he was caught out by the NOTW with his contempt for his peers and his customers. rubbish. mackems.gif Did you see many protestors standing up for their principles a few months after that "contempt for his peers and customers" when FA Cup Final tickets were being dished out, for the first time in 24 years, I may add. When do you think the automatically better board will reach another Cup Final or even qualify for the UEFA Cup ? Under Mike Ashley I don't think we will. But you keep on telling yourself that Freddy was a top bloke, and wasn't bothered first and foremost with lining his pockets from the money he could make from Newcastle United. I think Freddy Shepherd has a nerve telling anyone how to run Newcastle United as a successful business. you find a post where I have said he was a "top bloke". Apology accepted. None given. So will you now please answer my question. Is Freddy Shepherd (at least partially) responsible for Newcastle's financial state? Why can you not answer this yes or no? Why can't you stop waffling on about other things? What are you talking about ? The saleable value of the club increased from 1.25m to anywhere between 100m and 200m quid while they ran it ? Maybe you should go back to the financial statement thread and re-read it if you cannot understand what I am asking you about. I think you should look at the league positions I posted and the history of the club if you don't understand exactly how much better off the club became while the Halls and shepherd ran it. Thank you I know exactly what happened with the club when Sir John Hall came in. I can remember what it was like before he came in. And I know what happened when Sir John Hall and Freddy Shepherd were here in regards of football. I also know that Fred Shepherd mortgaged the club to the hilt and he was lucky not to financially ruin the club. I know that Mike Ashley was not the only person to look at the books with a view of taking over the club, but the mess Freddy Shepherd had made with the finances put everyone else off. I don't need a history lesson, but you need a reality check! So, it's a mystery to you that the top 4 have massive debt?? man utd's is dropping dramatically, chelsea are f***ed should abramovic walk away,arsenal have had to redefine their plans and liverpool are trying to sell up. So you admit it takes massive expenditure and debt risk to gain a chance at success? And when massive expenditure and debt buys only a steady decline until there's nothing left to borrow against? Not as simple as that is it. People come into these threads (not you) saying FS is a c***, KK is a c***, Wise is a c*** etc...it's more complex than that (as you know). Sometimes little things go against you (Luque's career threateing inj or Boumsong being half decent) and history can be re-written. The days when you could build a club with youth and cheap buys are long gone. You either compete and spend or you do what MA is doing...Shitting his large pants. The muppet. wrong...what we have been saying is this IS the aftermath of compete or spend and a few clubs seem to be caught up in it. the days of doing what we have been are gone,not just for us. Ashley just needed to put 100m down (for players), drop a couple of tabs and gone down the disco at the end of the day and log a gargantuan bar bill. He could have done it but he has no balls.....Hiring JK ffs!! Pitiful!! Delegating running of the club to football people might have been an idea, f***ed up there as well. How the f*** did he make his money??! search me. don't get caught in the NE5 trap of thinking everyone who thinks fred ended up making a balls of things automatically thinks ashley is the answer to everything. Nah mate, I know you're one of the clever ones that is why I'm always nice to you. can't decide if that is sarcasm Rest easy.