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He was asked to bake a delicious pie. He complied. Life is good. Life is pie.

Mince pie Steak & kidney pie Pork sausage Black pudding Yorkshire pud Scotch egg Baked beans Savoury duck Fried bread Mashed spuds Bacon Salami Sweetbreads Jerky BLT Coronation chicken Cornish pasty Finger of fudge Lard Red cabbage Pauleta

Don't take it so personally, Arsenal are challenging for the title. I reckon you're aware of that. Banned for having a silly avatar and no pies.

Parky is banned for being Parky and not a pie.

Rafa didn't do that well against Mourinho's sides. The CL semis we won were both close-run things, and in 2005 in particular, Chelsea's side was decimated by injuries and fatigue, while we went into the game with our best 11 in top condition (they were pushing for the league title, we were concentrating 100% on the CL). IIRC, we bossed them twice: once when Gerrard and Hamann had an absolute barnstormer in midfield (while their 3 had a 'mare), and once when Essien was at CB because all their actual centre backs were out injured. That said, I'd like to see Mourinho win the Champions League with Djimi Traore in his side … Mourinho is, IMO, very astute tactically, but also a good man manager. He has the charisma to get away with defensive tactics where lesser characters would not.

So what? Suarez is doing just dandy in absolute terms. I get the impression you're just hunting around for comparisons so you can try to make him look relatively bad. Agreed. But, I'm afraid he's just as likely to start biting again

Not at all - but if the numbers that Froggy produced are correct (and they sound familiar) then he's battering the rubbish teams but hardly scoring against good defenders. He's "one of the best in the world", but only against poor defenders...? Doesn't it concern you as a Liverpool fan that he doesn't get on the score sheet in the big games you really want to win? It's hardly just about him, is it? Better opposition means less possession, fewer scoring chances. The fact that we aren't beating better sides is a concern, Suarez's individual goal tally not so much. 1 goal in 3 games against the teams around us is hardly something to be sniffed at. Saying, "ah, but he does so much better against weaker opposition" doesn't change that. Obviously, I'd prefer it if he were banging in three every week, regardless of who we're playing, but I don't see it as great cause for concern nor evidence that he's a "flat-track bully".

Err … what would you expect? More goals against better opposition?

Who's the opposition like? Busby's Babes.

And 5-0 to boot. Every club has 'em. And lest we forget, they're exactly the nutjobs the mainstream media look for because they're far more "entertaining" than people who talk actual sense. Of course, when broadcasting the actual game footage, for which they paid ridiculous sums of money, they'll always have the blandest motherfuckers on the planet, like Michael Pissing Owen.

Just to be clear, I didn't mean you. Fuck the other guy selling us out so cheap.

Think it was because we got a draw off them with 10 men? Never a goal like I believe it came on the back of an agreement with the liverpool poster here that if they don't beat us (or if they dont get a certain number of points by a point in time) that Parky'd get a goal. Should be disallowed imo. Rodgers seems to know what he's doing. Too right. Fuck that guy.

Not true. That was what made him great, but he also had a very good eye for goal, and was an intelligent player.

Who would have ended up owning the club had FSG not bought the club then? Based on what you're saying, Bank would have taken us over and put the club publicly for sale for highest bidder ? Interesting. I am certain I read Tom Hicks managed to gather the money to pay the bank on October 16th, which would have led to him resuming control over the club. (To be fair, that could possible be as bad as administration). I may be wrong, but that's the version I read. Can't believe it's been 3 years now. Hard to say what the bank would have done. They already had a deal in place with FSG, when they could have auctioned the club instead (or held an IPO), so they likely would have just sold it to the first-comer who offered the asking price. No idea about whether Hicks had got the money together or not. I'm certainly glad he lost control of the club more than anything.

You know I said I don't usually agree with GC? There you go. Costanza: the club was never anywhere close to going bankrupt or into administration. The company that owned the club (and literally nothing else) was on the brink of bankruptcy. It had borrowed tens of millions to buy LFC and tried to uses LFC's profits to pay the interest on the loans, but LFC wasn't making enough money to do so. So the bank foreclosed on the company that owned LFC, to take LFC as an asset to sell in order to pay the debts of its owner. The club itself was never in any danger of going bankrupt or into administration. Even if the sale hadn't covered the parent company's debt, the difference would have remained the parent company's problem, not LFC's. It's really not that complicated.

And the previous season before Roy yous had finished 7th. My point is the others, City and Spurs, were on the up and up and yous were on the slide. Hence Benitez getting sacked and Roy being appointed. It all went tits-up for Benitez because he—quite rightly—joined all the fans in coming out publicly and hard against the shitbag then-owners. Everyone knew it was curtains for him then, and no lame duck ever does well. Who could you have appointed really of real high quality? Yous had no CL footy. I do agree that Roy was the wrong appointment for yous and after Benitez, no doubt a bit of a come down but there is no denying he wasn't given a chance by LFC fans from pretty much the get go. That's beside the point. Even if we couldn't have attracted one of Europe's established top managers, that doesn't mean a complete muppet was the only other option. You have become a cup team pretty much like Spurs used to be. Rafa won some cups but failed to deliver the title despite spending huge sums of money. At the end of the day, he underachieved league wise and you could see, despite one very very good season where yous finished 2nd, the other seasons were not very good in terms of challenging for the title. You're taking a very superficial view of things. In all-but-one of Rafa's seasons in charge, we were out of the running for the EPL by November (admittedly due to his early-season rotation leading to a slow start while the competition at the time was going gangbusters). From that point on, his focus was 100% on the CL. And it showed. We didn't have the depth in the squad of the top clubs, so our best players were rested in league games. Europe was a different matter. Number 4 in England, but top-ranked club in Euro competitions. That's nowt to be sniffed at. Well, its hard to do better when after a few games the fans want you out. Dalglish didn't do much better league wise and I doubt Rodgers will get you into the top 4 too. We wanted him out because he was clearly hell-bent on turning Liverpool into a distinctly mid-table side. Dalglish was up and down, not just down. His signings weren't great, but at least there were somewhat ambitious. Poulsen for Mascherano? Fucking hell. Doing a Rangers As if yous would have went bust! You're spot-on with that one. We were nowhere near going bust. The yanks' holding company was 2 days from going bust, at which point their only asset, Liverpool FC, would have been taken away from them and sold to pay their debt, not the club's. So... LFC fans in general are spoiled, delusional heart bleeders. Yous still think your club is up there with the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and now City when yous aren't. Yous are a cup team like Spurs used to be, big enough of course to challenge for the top 4 but no way title contenders. That's not so much your club's fault btw, that's the way footy is now because of the money. That's what I meant about yous now being a top 6 type club. Weeell … the potential's there, profile-wise, but we're a long way financially and in footie terms from being able to compete. But I wouldn't be surprised if we bag number 6 before you unlucky fuckers finally snag some silver With a brush that broad, you should be a painter and decorator. no. doch.

Right, even though I rarely agree with GC, I'm not having that. And the previous season before Roy yous had finished 7th. My point is the others, City and Spurs, were on the up and up and yous were on the slide. Hence Benitez getting sacked and Roy being appointed. It all went tits-up for Benitez because he—quite rightly—joined all the fans in coming out publicly and hard against the shitbag then-owners. Everyone knew it was curtains for him then, and no lame duck ever does well. Who could you have appointed really of real high quality? Yous had no CL footy. I do agree that Roy was the wrong appointment for yous and after Benitez, no doubt a bit of a come down but there is no denying he wasn't given a chance by LFC fans from pretty much the get go. That's beside the point. Even if we couldn't have attracted one of Europe's established top managers, that doesn't mean a complete muppet was the only other option. You have become a cup team pretty much like Spurs used to be. Rafa won some cups but failed to deliver the title despite spending huge sums of money. At the end of the day, he underachieved league wise and you could see, despite one very very good season where yous finished 2nd, the other seasons were not very good in terms of challenging for the title. You're taking a very superficial view of things. In all-but-one of Rafa's seasons in charge, we were out of the running for the EPL by November (admittedly due to his early-season rotation leading to a slow start while the competition at the time was going gangbusters). From that point on, his focus was 100% on the CL. And it showed. We didn't have the depth in the squad of the top clubs, so our best players were rested in league games. Europe was a different matter. Number 4 in England, but top-ranked club in Euro competitions. That's nowt to be sniffed at. Well, its hard to do better when after a few games the fans want you out. Dalglish didn't do much better league wise and I doubt Rodgers will get you into the top 4 too. We wanted him out because he was clearly hell-bent on turning Liverpool into a distinctly mid-table side. Dalglish was up and down, not just down. His signings weren't great, but at least there were somewhat ambitious. Poulsen for Mascherano? Fucking hell. Doing a Rangers As if yous would have went bust! You're spot-on with that one. We were nowhere near going bust. The yanks' holding company was 2 days from going bust, at which point their only asset, Liverpool FC, would have been taken away from them and sold to pay their debt, not the club's. So... LFC fans in general are spoiled, delusional heart bleeders. Yous still think your club is up there with the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and now City when yous aren't. Yous are a cup team like Spurs used to be, big enough of course to challenge for the top 4 but no way title contenders. That's not so much your club's fault btw, that's the way footy is now because of the money. That's what I meant about yous now being a top 6 type club. Weeell … the potential's there, profile-wise, but we're a long way financially and in footie terms from being able to compete. But I wouldn't be surprised if we bag number 6 before you unlucky fuckers finally snag some silver With a brush that broad, you should be a painter and decorator.

Everyone cried when he left Liverpool (except the fucking Texans)

So true. I remember seeing my mate's photos of his holiday on Martinique. It was "winter" there, and all the photos have him running around in shorts and a t-shirt while all the locals are wrapped up in puffer jackets, hunching their shoulders against the cold.

"hin"? Is that Berlin dialect?

And that is how good Gerrard was. Drove Liverpool on that night with a phenomenal second half display. Hamann coming on and popping Kaka in his pocket helped a lot.

"The scrotum frog"

Aye, but he lost his bottle permanently in 2001, and he was only ever interested in Michael Owen, England, horses and Michael Owen.

And he was right It never fails to give me a nice, warm feeling inside when I think about how he fucked off to Real for a pittance, and kept their bench warm while his teammates of the previous 8 years went on to win the Champions League.