ElDiablo

I reckon he's still up there as one of the quickest in the squad it's just his acceleration is no more basically.

Hah, thanks for killing my thrilling anecdote by creating a new page. >

The 5-1. Also Fat boy's equaliser against Portugal in extra time in Euro 04, was typical England the way we gave a goal away and thought that was it, but I went fucking mental when he popped up with that goal, shame we got done about 15 mins later on pens.

Oh God. I don't have one btw. why "oh god"? Just the way you put it. Orgasmic.

Oh God. I don't have one btw.

You know...that sounds like a broken record. We've been writing off season after season. Think we're due some good times again soon. Word.

You saying we could go down Dave? I just hope we don't get relegated this season, then fucking go for it in the summer.

Agreed, Owen is frustrating but you know he will pop up with a goal. You don't have that confidence in Martins. I think we need 2 new strikers. Speak for yourself. Martins has more goals than Owen this season from less games up front. Not gonna research it, but got a feeling that stat is misleading somehow. Maybe not, still, I'd have Owen up front over Martins every day of the week.

Agreed, Owen is frustrating but you know he will pop up with a goal. You don't have that confidence in Martins. I think we need 2 new strikers.

Dempsey seems good.

sshh...don't let the facts get in the way of a good slagging. Give your head a shake man for God's sake. Sorry but I don't see the point in complaining about Owen when he's scored two goals even though our attacking play was blunt at best. I'm not just talking about today. In the Premiership, your centre forward has to be able to do more than just score the odd from a set piece. With the ball at his feet these days, Owen is totally impotent. He just won't put chances anymore. It's a matter of accepting that rather than categorising it as "a good slagging." I find it insanely comical that the only goal Michael Owen seems capable of scoring these days is a header. He's like shorter pre-WC2006 Miroslav Klose Yes cos he's missed SO many chances on the deck hasn't he? About 3. Who cares what his goals are like? So what if they're headers? f*** me. I just find it funny that what used to be a small part of his game (his superb set-piece positioning) is just about all he has left to score goals. The worrying thing isn't that he's missing chances on the deck, it's that he has no ability whatsoever to create them anymore. Even then, he's missed far more than three easy chances with his foot this season. Honestly mate, what do you expect a player to do when the ball is constantly played to him in front of the defence? We next to never really get in behind teams, Owen gets the ball 'in the whole' because he's forced to drop in search of the ball. Owen in a team like Tottenham would be awesome. That's what they try to do every attack. Get the winger in behind and lay or chip a ball in. He ffeds off s****. He isn't the same player as when he joined us even, but still has it. Have you considered that he's only getting the ball in front of the defence because he's not fast enough/not mobile enough to make piercing runs in behind them anymore? Our central midfield may be incompetent, but they're not completel idiots. If Owen moves into a good position they will try the thru pass. It just hasn't happened a lot and when it has, it hasn't worke dout. Don't give me that, seriously. You probably think Martins is better cos he runs fast.

Exactly, Owen IS in a poor run of form finishing wise. Only way you can get out of that is to score. He may get decent chance a game atm. That's shit really.

sshh...don't let the facts get in the way of a good slagging. Give your head a shake man for God's sake. Sorry but I don't see the point in complaining about Owen when he's scored two goals even though our attacking play was blunt at best. I'm not just talking about today. In the Premiership, your centre forward has to be able to do more than just score the odd from a set piece. With the ball at his feet these days, Owen is totally impotent. He just won't put chances anymore. It's a matter of accepting that rather than categorising it as "a good slagging." I find it insanely comical that the only goal Michael Owen seems capable of scoring these days is a header. He's like shorter pre-WC2006 Miroslav Klose Yes cos he's missed SO many chances on the deck hasn't he? About 3. Who cares what his goals are like? So what if they're headers? f*** me. I just find it funny that what used to be a small part of his game (his superb set-piece positioning) is just about all he has left to score goals. The worrying thing isn't that he's missing chances on the deck, it's that he has no ability whatsoever to create them anymore. Even then, he's missed far more than three easy chances with his foot this season. Honestly mate, what do you expect a player to do when the ball is constantly played to him in front of the defence? We next to never really get in behind teams, Owen gets the ball 'in the whole' because he's forced to drop in search of the ball. Owen in a team like Tottenham would be awesome. That's what they try to do every attack. Get the winger in behind and lay or chip a ball in. He ffeds off shite. He isn't the same player as when he joined us even, but still has it.

sshh...don't let the facts get in the way of a good slagging. Give your head a shake man for God's sake. Sorry but I don't see the point in complaining about Owen when he's scored two goals even though our attacking play was blunt at best. I'm not just talking about today. In the Premiership, your centre forward has to be able to do more than just score the odd from a set piece. With the ball at his feet these days, Owen is totally impotent. He just won't put chances anymore. It's a matter of accepting that rather than categorising it as "a good slagging." I find it insanely comical that the only goal Michael Owen seems capable of scoring these days is a header. He's like shorter pre-WC2006 Miroslav Klose Yes cos he's missed SO many chances on the deck hasn't he? About 3. Who cares what his goals are like? So what if they're headers? Fuck me.

Aye. He only seems to be capable of a few types of goals. When he scored those goals for England I thought that had changed but it hasn't. his heading is his best attribute these days. You've answered your own argument there as well btw.

I was never a fan of Parker but Barton isn't any better from what i've seen. His season has been stop start from the word go, just needs a run of about 5 games now.

Aye. He only seems to be capable of a few types of goals. When he scored those goals for England I thought that had changed but it hasn't. his heading is his best attribute these days. People forget Owen is a confidence player. Keegan can give him so much but what he really needs is a few goals. He should have done better with that one Barton played across though. Give him a few of them per game and he'll score more than he misses imo.

I've tried to back him, but he was pretty awful today. It's got to be Butt & Emre if Butt plays. Anything else = fail.

Would love Nobster back, Parker was shit, Barton is much better IMO.

lol, that whooshed me at the time.

Clearly don't go to the games. Truth, rarely. For what it's worth I think a game under the lights pwns all over a gloomy 3pm. The two Arsenal's that i DID go to proved that.

Hopefully Keekan will tell him he is allowed to come off the touchline once in a while to help the midfielders or gamble on a ball going into the box. He limits himself by not doing these things. He has got decent shot but never gets himself in a position to try them.

Stop watching football. He got prospect right.

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