ElDiablo

The star. When reading it you get deja vu because every article starts with "Blah blah is on the cards, according to some player." Quality read is the star.

Good player, used to watch him at Luton

He runs the channels as well which would help the midfield out a lot. a) Giving them a ball to play and b) it's a good position to start an attack. Always noticed that about Spurs, you hardly ever see them score from a cross right on the touchline or by the corner flag, it always seems to be a drag back from inside the box. With Owen in the team that would benefit him as well. Martins better than Defoe.

Given, Beye, Enrique, Faye, Owen and Zog. That's consistently in the top 6, a few more could get us there to start with like Barton, Emre, Viduka.

When would it be?

He is not our best player though is he? He is a waste of time, invisible on the pitch and a pointless selection. I hope he proves me wrong and goes on a 28 goal spree but I really can't see it. For him to score regularly he needs quality service something he would never get here because we are not going to attract the players we need in our current position. It's not like we need fucking Kaka to thread balls through to him for him to score. Someone who can pass a ball to a team mate in the final thrid might be a start.

Isnt Martins our best goalscorer? No.

At the end of the day, you can look at it either way. a) We get rid cos he's shit, no pace, the rest of the team doesn't make chances for him so why don't we play Carroll at least he might knock it down to Smith or Butt to shoot a few times a game. We stay shit. b) Keep our best goalscorer and try and invest in the team who could make the chances for him. We improve. Yes, a tad OTT maybe but you don't get better by selling your best players.

Spot on. Owen is simply a reputation & hype. He's a name, not a brilliant player. And the thing is he did have chances, again, today- but hes simply not this finisher he's hyped up to be. People really need to realise what he actually is and not be sucked into the rubbish Owen hype. He's not the worst player ever obviosuly. But 'lethal finisher', 'world class striker' 'give him a chance and he'll put it away striker'? Its hype, and hype only & not the truth. Get rid asap. Great post. He had one chance in particular any "World Class" striker would have slotted away. A waste in our team and only hampers our game. Yep. The chances have to be so good though he might as well be in a wheelchair. He needs a good team to produce for him. We're a million miles from that right now. He is not good for the club, he isn't going to get the service and is going to be invisible all game. Carrol did a better job today FFS. Why play with 10 men? Whilst he's here he's going to play, like it or not. Lets hope he fucks off in Jan then. To Citeh, he would do great there IMO with the service of Elano and Petrov. mackems.gif Where does that leave us then? Accepting we're shit so might as well play the players that suit?

Yep.

What were they singing? " Your worse than Watford " i think No, the plain old 'Hark now hear, the Luton sing etc.' Burn scummers, burn. They did run though iirc in that game when the Luton fans attacked one of the stands.

Honestly sometimes think he gives it away just so he can lunge into someone and be superman again. Not a midfielder, get him out of mid, fucking liability.

fucking hell, he's younger than me. That's depressing Haha, and me. It's weird.

1-1.

and then what, genius? are you prepared to watch Ameobi and Viduka for the rest of the season? or you're hoping that Owen won't be injured no more? or are we buying fucking Leo Messi instead? Martins is the best striker the club has bought in the last 10 years, what gives you lunatics confidence that there's even a remote chance Allardyce of all managers will replace him with somebody better? in the position that we are atm? fuck you all Some offers are too good to turn down for chairmen/managers, like Woodgate's to Madrid. Bellamy was/is better than Martins as well.

What does that mean? Hate it when people do that. I apolopgise. I was laughing at his utterly hurrendous effort on goal and then his facial expression afterwards. Oh right. Sorry that read a bit aggresive.

What does that mean? Hate it when people do that.

Golf innit? With Inter playing Ajax in it?

Golf innit?

He gets into goalscoring positions though, he's much more of a poacher so doesn't rely on the attributes you listed (your comparison is bollocks as well imo) as much as Martins who doesn't get into the positions so because of that is seen as a second striker type player, which again he simply doesn't have the attributes to play. Defoe will get into the box, try shots and generally be in an around the area sniffing for chances, that's what Martins doesn't do, and that is why he is a better striker than Martins imo. I think we could get him if honest, I highly doubt Spurs would hold out for the amount you mentioned.

Sell, get Defoe for lyke 6-7 mill then put the rest towards Diouf.

There's an interview with Sir Bob on bbc football page saying he thinks sam will turn it around but only if he gets the team to play carpet football and stops with the hoofing to the front man. He puts it politely but you can tell he thinks Sam needs to buck his ideas up. A very good little interview. Why oh why did we fucking sack this man.

Martins contributes precisely fuck all to the team apart from apparently making the opposition scared to play a high line because of his pace. That he can't use unless the ball is a combination of 1) in front of him 2) into an acre of space. He seems to have gone backwards since he started at Newcastle and yet he is our most valuable forward because he's the only one that will play every week. Sad, really is.

Bolton beat Derby, last minute goal from Stelios.

Fuck off that's the only thing to look forward to this season. You look forward to gettin knocked out of the FA Cup, and watching a "big 4" team win it AGAIN? What the fuck?