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On the other hand, he created plenty of chances that weren't converted. This criticism that he has no football intelligence is also a strange one. He's quite often involved in clever one-twos or the flick round the defender which led to the shot on goal on Sunday. I just don't see it. He does go at defenses at full speed and sometimes lose the ball, but that's more to get beyond them rather than fuck about doing step-overs which allows the defence to get behind the ball. I've never said he was a world beater, but I've always maintained he's far better than he's given credit for. Ultimately the transfer market will prove me right. You'd be mad not to recognise he's been a fundamental problem since day one because his contribution is so minimal. I'd hardly say the transfer market is the best mechanism to demonstrate a players ability either. I prefer to judge based on what I've seen in the flesh and what the stats demonstrate his contribution to have been rather than seeing some TV money chucked at last minute in panic. Good for you, no reason for you not to be happy with your own opinion, I'm just pleased we have Rafa here to actually make the call. It will add at least £15m to our coffers. Incidentally, the real criticism that could be levelled at Sissoko is that he doesn't score enough goals. That's a valid point (even if I'm making it myself on the critics behalf), but he still carries enough threat on the counter to be a valuable outlet. Such a threat he's scores every 30 odd games and sets up a goal every 5.5 games. He's been here three years or so and you can probably count on one hand any really memorable through balls or great crosses. In 118 games. Rafa will play the game in terms of his value but privately I should imagine he'd be very confident in replacing him with a MUCH better option. It really wouldn't take much. We signed Andros for £12m FFS and he showed more in 12 games than this gimp did all season. I like how you're now making it out as if Rafa is agreeing with your assessment all along. He's going to craftily lure other clubs into overpaying for the big daft lump like fishing them on a line. You think a goal a season and a handful of assists is difficult to replace? . Rafa knows it. Everyone knows it. We'll not miss him one little bit.

On the other hand, he created plenty of chances that weren't converted. This criticism that he has no football intelligence is also a strange one. He's quite often involved in clever one-twos or the flick round the defender which led to the shot on goal on Sunday. I just don't see it. He does go at defenses at full speed and sometimes lose the ball, but that's more to get beyond them rather than fuck about doing step-overs which allows the defence to get behind the ball. I've never said he was a world beater, but I've always maintained he's far better than he's given credit for. Ultimately the transfer market will prove me right. You'd be mad not to recognise he's been a fundamental problem since day one because his contribution is so minimal. I'd hardly say the transfer market is the best mechanism to demonstrate a players ability either. I prefer to judge based on what I've seen in the flesh and what the stats demonstrate his contribution to have been rather than seeing some TV money chucked at last minute in panic. Good for you, no reason for you not to be happy with your own opinion, I'm just pleased we have Rafa here to actually make the call. It will add at least £15m to our coffers. Incidentally, the real criticism that could be levelled at Sissoko is that he doesn't score enough goals. That's a valid point (even if I'm making it myself on the critics behalf), but he still carries enough threat on the counter to be a valuable outlet. Such a threat he's scores every 30 odd games and sets up a goal every 5.5 games. He's been here three years or so and you can probably count on one hand any really memorable through balls or great crosses. In 118 games. Rafa will play the game in terms of his value but privately I should imagine he'd be very confident in replacing him with a MUCH better option. It really wouldn't take much. We signed Andros for £12m FFS and he showed more in 12 games than this gimp did all season.

Redmond and Howson also scored more goals than him though. Ayew from Villa had more of each too and both were in worse teams than us. Can't imagine Lallana etc played as many games as Sissoko and would imagine almost all in the bottom line of your post scored more than him too.

This is bollocks. Even statistically, he was our most creative player last season in terms of chances created. I'm very comfortable assessing his stats against other players in his position in shite-mid table teams last season to make the comparison. He's basically, the complete opposite of Nobby Solano, in that he's huge, strong and garbage with his final ball. Solano was a proper midfielder imho. He played the game with his head first, everything else followed. This big dopy cunt just barges through people and fucks up his final ball/pass/shot/cross. Last Season, Sissoko (1 goal and 7 assists) across an entire season. 1 goal and 7 assists is 18% of the goals we scored last season. Not too shabby contribution if you ask me. 1 goal in 38 games . 1 assist every 5.5 games. Considering he was given plenty of freedom and opportunity those figures are pretty shameful. Previous seasons are no better either.

On the other hand, he created plenty of chances that weren't converted. This criticism that he has no football intelligence is also a strange one. He's quite often involved in clever one-twos or the flick round the defender which led to the shot on goal on Sunday. I just don't see it. He does go at defenses at full speed and sometimes lose the ball, but that's more to get beyond them rather than fuck about doing step-overs which allows the defence to get behind the ball. I've never said he was a world beater, but I've always maintained he's far better than he's given credit for. Ultimately the transfer market will prove me right. You'd be mad not to recognise he's been a fundamental problem since day one because his contribution is so minimal. I'd hardly say the transfer market is the best mechanism to demonstrate a players ability either. I prefer to judge based on what I've seen in the flesh and what the stats demonstrate his contribution to have been rather than seeing some TV money chucked at last minute in panic.

What's his stats on that compared to other wide players though? Didn't we attack mostly down the right because we either had the invisible man at LM, that shit French lad or Perez at LM? Moussa Sissoko's performances were one of the least reasons we were relegated. I stand by him being one of our better performers. Uselessness down the spine of the side (beyond managerial and board room decisions) was the primary cause of relegation. Colo, Saylor, Mbemba, Shelvey, Colback, Anita, Perez, Cisse & Mitro all far more culpable for our relegation than Sissoko. Why don't you google it instead of fucking asking every other cunt to do it for you?

He's a fundamental reason we went down.

Not important if you give it straight back.

That's it for me. Just say for arguments sake we get £20m for him. I would expect Rafa to go out and sign a better replacement for half that. You wouldn't even need £10m to replace him. So many players who are, in theory, worse deliver far more for their teams statiscally. If you looked at Sissoko's contribution, without knowing the players name/nationality etc, you'd never see an international footballer. I genuinely hope he leaves and feel the club will be far better off without him and his 'better than NUFC' attitude. You can tell by the players Rafa has recruited that we're no longer selling NUFC as a stepping stone club. In some respects we shouldn't expect anything more from this shithouse because him, and the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Tiote etc were all sold the long term dream of using the club for their own gain. It's no wonder we've been left with a squad full of heartless cunts who care only for themselves. Rafa is very clearly going about introducing a new culture and I can't imagine there's much of a place for twats like Sissoko/Gini etc, whatever Benitez is saying publically. I'm personally delighted to see these career vultures leave. Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote etc are all just Demba Ba's without the same PR Machines behind them. NUFC will be a better place without them, a healthier environment where new players will appreciate the opportunity and, I would hope, view playing for NUFC as an honour. Something most of the shitehawks we will ship out clearly don't. It all sounds so plausible, but not a lot of it really stands up under scrutiny. He's lazy - he's not. He wants to play in the CL - well most would, and he's been here for a few years now. It's not like he bailed out after 13 matches to fuck off to Palace. Rafa is going to introduce a new culture - true, but he's given no indication that Sissoko is a problem player, if anything he seems very keen to keep him. If he wanted shot he'd have bombed him out for £3m and that would be that. Get it through your skulls, if he leaves it will be at our price point and for a 26 yr old who just starred in the Euro final it won't be for peanuts. How old is £100 million rated Payet btw, considering he flopped in the same tournament? Not sure which bit doesn't stand up to scrutiny? His contribution has been minimal since day one. Do any of the new signings strike you as 'stepping stoners'? They don't look it to me. The culture change will be clear after the summer but the departures board are almost all players with questionable application. I've not said he's lazy tbh but his contribution has been largely very very poor. As for the Champions League guff, he's been spouting it since the early days so it's not like it's new. Your opinion that Payet flopped is an interesting one. Check out the respective stats. One player hit three goals and 2 assists over the 7 games. The other got 0 of each in 5 games. He barged passed a few players though, so that was canny. He's all fart and no shit. Barging your way down the wing, knocking people over in your way is one thing. An intelligent player would actually contribute in a meaningful way. A HUGE proportion of his possession comes to nothing. Rafa will have seen this. So then my did Rafa make him captain and is desperately looking to keep hold of him? Probably to try to get a reaction out of him. He probably felt the need to motivate the bloke into some form of effort commitment. Let's see how hard he tries to keep him should a good offer come in.

This is bollocks. Even statistically, he was our most creative player last season in terms of chances created. I'm very comfortable assessing his stats against other players in his position in shite-mid table teams last season to make the comparison. He's basically, the complete opposite of Nobby Solano, in that he's huge, strong and garbage with his final ball. Solano was a proper midfielder imho. He played the game with his head first, everything else followed. This big dopy cunt just barges through people and fucks up his final ball/pass/shot/cross. Last Season, Sissoko (1 goal and 7 assists) across an entire season.

That's it for me. Just say for arguments sake we get £20m for him. I would expect Rafa to go out and sign a better replacement for half that. You wouldn't even need £10m to replace him. So many players who are, in theory, worse deliver far more for their teams statiscally. If you looked at Sissoko's contribution, without knowing the players name/nationality etc, you'd never see an international footballer. I genuinely hope he leaves and feel the club will be far better off without him and his 'better than NUFC' attitude. You can tell by the players Rafa has recruited that we're no longer selling NUFC as a stepping stone club. In some respects we shouldn't expect anything more from this shithouse because him, and the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Tiote etc were all sold the long term dream of using the club for their own gain. It's no wonder we've been left with a squad full of heartless cunts who care only for themselves. Rafa is very clearly going about introducing a new culture and I can't imagine there's much of a place for twats like Sissoko/Gini etc, whatever Benitez is saying publically. I'm personally delighted to see these career vultures leave. Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote etc are all just Demba Ba's without the same PR Machines behind them. NUFC will be a better place without them, a healthier environment where new players will appreciate the opportunity and, I would hope, view playing for NUFC as an honour. Something most of the shitehawks we will ship out clearly don't. It all sounds so plausible, but not a lot of it really stands up under scrutiny. He's lazy - he's not. He wants to play in the CL - well most would, and he's been here for a few years now. It's not like he bailed out after 13 matches to fuck off to Palace. Rafa is going to introduce a new culture - true, but he's given no indication that Sissoko is a problem player, if anything he seems very keen to keep him. If he wanted shot he'd have bombed him out for £3m and that would be that. Get it through your skulls, if he leaves it will be at our price point and for a 26 yr old who just starred in the Euro final it won't be for peanuts. How old is £100 million rated Payet btw, considering he flopped in the same tournament? Not sure which bit doesn't stand up to scrutiny? His contribution has been minimal since day one. Do any of the new signings strike you as 'stepping stoners'? They don't look it to me. The culture change will be clear after the summer but the departures board are almost all players with questionable application. I've not said he's lazy tbh but his contribution has been largely very very poor. As for the Champions League guff, he's been spouting it since the early days so it's not like it's new. Your opinion that Payet flopped is an interesting one. Check out the respective stats. One player hit three goals and 2 assists over the 7 games. The other got 0 of each in 5 games. He barged passed a few players though, so that was canny. He's all fart and no shit. Barging your way down the wing, knocking people over in your way is one thing. An intelligent player would actually contribute in a meaningful way. A HUGE proportion of his possession comes to nothing. Rafa will have seen this.

Can only be Moyes, shirley?

I'd imagine we'd be signing him to start him given his age, the rumoured fee and the fact he's the Captain of Blackburn. He's not likely to leave all of that without some assurances he'll get plenty of game time. I hope Mbemba is not off. Also, worth remembering that Rafa is pretty heartless, when it comes to team selection and maybe he was using Lascelles at the end of the season due to limited options. Perhaps he wasn't as convinced as many of us fans were?

That's it for me. Just say for arguments sake we get £20m for him. I would expect Rafa to go out and sign a better replacement for half that. You wouldn't even need £10m to replace him. So many players who are, in theory, worse deliver far more for their teams statiscally. If you looked at Sissoko's contribution, without knowing the players name/nationality etc, you'd never see an international footballer. I genuinely hope he leaves and feel the club will be far better off without him and his 'better than NUFC' attitude. You can tell by the players Rafa has recruited that we're no longer selling NUFC as a stepping stone club. In some respects we shouldn't expect anything more from this shithouse because him, and the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Tiote etc were all sold the long term dream of using the club for their own gain. It's no wonder we've been left with a squad full of heartless cunts who care only for themselves. Rafa is very clearly going about introducing a new culture and I can't imagine there's much of a place for twats like Sissoko/Gini etc, whatever Benitez is saying publically. I'm personally delighted to see these career vultures leave. Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote etc are all just Demba Ba's without the same PR Machines behind them. NUFC will be a better place without them, a healthier environment where new players will appreciate the opportunity and, I would hope, view playing for NUFC as an honour. Something most of the shitehawks we will ship out clearly don't.

He's an athlete with virtually zero footballing intelligence and his stats back that up. We could replace him for a tenth of his cost for someone equally as effective (statistically) imho.

How come? No confirmation of why yet but probably to do with the recent take over by News Corp. I didn't even know it's been taken over tbqh. I don't listen very often but thought, at times, Collymore was fairly cerebral compared to other ex-pro's doing similar gigs.

Weird one. Does he mean next May because he was working for them during the Euros? He had a fairly heated debate with Joey Barton in the run up to the Euros and he didn't come across in the best light but then I thought that was the purpose of Talksport?

How come?

Have never booed an NUFC player in my life and never will. This bloke has had outrageous levels of support, let's hope he repays it next season..... Amongst actual fans when it matters, yes. Twitter mongs are a law unto themselves. I'm going to agree with you for a change, at the ground itself the critics are usually just a handful of pissheads, otherwise there's no groundswell of hatred towards Sissoko (probably disappointing for you). The stick he gets on here is probably exaggerated. He got booed off against Bournemouth at home by all four corners of the ground. I'd say there's not too much patience with the bloke at the ground too.

My cynicism comes from having seen him drunk when he's been in the press saying how long he's been dry for. Granted this was many years ago but it's not that uncommon judging by many of the reports over the years. I wonder how his life would've panned out if he never found football.

Well beyond it I would say. Has he ever truly looked like winning this battle? I'm not entirely sure all of the PR around 'clean for x months' was ever close to being accurate tbqh.

Looks to me like Rafa is stripping out those with questionable attitudes and replacing them with solid pro's with hunger. Cisse, Colo etc. I'd be amazed if Tiote, Gini and Sissoko etc stayed after the summer as they're a part of the problem. He's clearly looking for a culture change and it's massively overdue. I don't see anyway someone like Berahino would be part of a Benitez NUFC.

Jesus, the state of him. He looks beyond help. It's a wonder his body carries on.

Those in bold I still think will leave. Quite a few of the kids will leave on loan too imho.

Ah I thought we'd got a fee for him. My mistake. Did we get a fee for Lovenkrands?