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If that's true the man has a mental illness, is he expecting it to catch on ? does he think other clubs owners will join in and think he is onto something.

I guess even Parew would not work under those conditions, he's a fkn lunatic f he thinks any manger will accept that.

I have no doubt it is true. It completely matches up with the ideas they have been pushing regarding financial prudency. I'm happy it has come out as it has so everyone knows, as it is now all on them completely. There will certainly be someone desperate enough to take it on Skirge, however we all have to brace ourselves because it isn't likely to be anyone sexy. I can see managers in general being pissed off at this and urging no one to take the job, because it holds them hugely accountable and they won't appreciate the possibility that other owners, however few, might eventually follow suit should if it miraculously works.

Allardyce didn't really call his villa that did he?

This is Allardyce we are talking about. A man of zero class or grace. I'm certain he did.

If that was a players contract then everyone would be praising him, whats f***ed him up though is not the fact that it's a bad idea in theory, it's the fact that his controls over transfer funding, wages etc will forever mean that the club can't be successfull, atleast not in the way he wishes judging by his choice to sack Hughton.

 

Exactly, and its a nice mask to hide behind at the same time - 'Im not going to do a Portsmouth etc'... but its all cost cutting to make the club attractive for a buyer.

Well, people are fed up with them anyway, so making the club as attractive for a buyer as possible might not be a bad thing if this is indeed the case.

I blame fat Sam. That "casa St. James" stunt clearly pissed them off hugely.

Well, at least whoever comes in will have every motivation to do their very best, and if they're crap they will suffer for it. Problem being if they're crap the club itself will still suffer for it too, as poor results will mean the likelihood of ending up back in the championship.

This is a fascinating experiment. At least all the cards are being laid out on the table from the outset. For the very first time you could argue that Mike Ashley is going to get the manager he wants on his terms. This could end in disaster, and probably will, but its high time this regime were clear on what the hell they want to do and just freakin' do it. If it fails miserably then everyone can then just move on once and for all. Pretty crazy stuff though. It's going to be interesting to watch that's for sure.

 

Did you think it was 'fascinating' and 'interesting' when we employed Joe Kinnear?

Please don't misunderstand me. Not saying this is a good thing. It just kind of clears things up really. The sooner they get it out of their system the better, at least everyone knows what is going on now. They clearly feel they can run a football club in this manner, but it's something that has never been done before. If it fails then they will have to go, because it would be on them 100%. They then can't blame the fans, the Geordie messiah, or whatever other silly thing they have been blaming. It is crazily ambitious and overly optimistic and it will be interesting to see what happens, we can only just pray it doesn't cost the club from a footballing perspective. As you have correctly said the biggest problem is the calibre of manager that will be willing to get involved in this "scheme".

This is a fascinating experiment. At least all the cards are being laid out on the table from the outset. For the very first time you could argue that Mike Ashley is going to get the manager he wants on his terms. This could end in disaster, and probably will, but its high time this regime were clear on what the hell they want to do and just freakin' do it. If it fails miserably then everyone can then just move on once and for all. Pretty crazy stuff though. It's going to be interesting to watch that's for sure.

Jol to be interviewed for Newcastle job

Harry Harris, ESPNsoccernet

December 7, 2010

 

 

Martin Jol wants the vacant job at Newcastle United, according to well placed sources in Amsterdam, and is to fly to the North East for an interview as the club in turmoil attempts to have a new manager by their next match against Liverpool.

 

Hughton was sacked on Monday and hours later Jol quit Ajax, with Newcastle able to chose between three managers currently all available and eager for a break back in Premier League football - Jol, Alan Pardew and Alan Curbishley.

 

Jol is expected to fly into the North East later for talks with the Newcastle owner, who prefers the 54-year-old to former West Ham and Southampton manager Pardew and ex-West Ham boss Curbishley.

 

There is a feeling that Jol would have to take a big drop in his wages to take the Newcastle job, something he might be reluctant to do, as Hamburg might want him back.

 

Curbishley, though, is not interested in the job. An insider told ESPNsoccernet: "This is not a challenge for Alan, not at all. He sees his future elsewhere. If you asked my opinion, and it's only an opinion, Martin Jol is a highly paid manager, and Alan Pardew would be on a lot less in terms of salary, and for that reason you would think it would be more likely Pardew than Jol."

 

Former Sports Direct employee Paul Kemsley, who was Tottenham's vice-chairman when Jol was manager, is the man on whom Ashley relies for advice about football.

 

Jol covets a return to the English game and thought he was going to be appointed Roy Hodgson's successor at Fulham, but an escape clause expired and he remained with Ajax. Under pressure Jol has now resigned from Ajax, who lie fourth in the Eredivisie and have been eliminated from the Champions League with their final group game against AC Milan to come on Wednesday.

 

Ashley wants the new man installed before Liverpool are at St James' Park for a live game on ESPN in the UK, 5.30pm kick-off on Saturday.

 

Pardew is the bookies' favourite at the moment, ahead of Jol, and is odds-on in places.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/61219.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

Have pretty much accepted this now 

 

What a tragedy.

 

How the hell anyone can accept it is beyond me. I don't care how unfair it is on Pardew (Stu), I will rage against him as a manager on principle.

I meant I have accepted that Mike Ashley is going to appoint this nitwit ahead of Jol, because he just seems too loopy to do the right thing and go all out for Jol. It will be devastating.

Have pretty much accepted this now 

What a tragedy.

Josh McDaniels and Chris Hughton sacked on the same day. Weird.

 

Although not as out of the blue as Hughton, I still didn't really expect it - especially with the American sports landscape and how much time managers/coaches usually get because there is no relegation.

Up against it from the outset due to the Cutler and Marshall drama. Hillis excelling in Cleveland didn't help too. Sucks.

Josh McDaniels and Chris Hughton sacked on the same day. Weird.

Maybe they heard about Jol leaving and decided to let Hughton go.

The thing is I could so see Ashley being willing to only offer a six month contract to protect himself from the threat of relegation. Really hope it isn't true though. God, the anxiety.

Oh my god ... Dave please explain. Is he cracking a joke or is that a real statement.

Ashley went for Redknapp who'll have wanted mega cash. Keegan too I'd wager was on a fair whack. Wages isn't an issue IMO, it's what he'll likely want to spend.

Also went for Houllier too. Agreed.

Ashley was paying Keegan a fair bit wasn't he? Don't think he'd be adverse to paying an established manager well. Jol also happily worked under the director of football role at Tottenham too, and I think Ashley still wants control over the buying a of players despite what he says.

I think we're nearly into 'Take a Boo' territory.

 

Thanks for sharing. Wish you were wrong but thanks all the same.

 

 

Thank you. Really wish I was wrong, and particularly about his replacement. Maybe the Jol situation will make MA think again. I doubt it though as all the arrangements for Pardew are already made and in place.

Please don't say that!

Would be so happy with Jol. If it ends up being Pardew after this though, man what a downer that would be.

Good to see Babel finally being given a chance to play off the front man. Good player. Rafa was clueless.

Would people want Roy Hodgson if Liverpool ditched him?

Apparently the club have said that they won't pay compensation. According to Richard Keys on Monday Night Football.

Sorry, not really someone who bets a lot. How can I find odds on Terry Venables? I might take a punt on that.

 

Good place to start

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/newcastle-specials/next-permanent-manager

Okay, thanks.

Sorry, not really someone who bets a lot. How can I find odds on Terry Venables? I might take a punt on that.

Someone mentioned Terry Venables. They approached him prior to Kinnear right?