Ronaldo

Shane Long starting, no thanks.

I didn't have a go at anyone. I simply said Ronaldo will not be overshadowed by Messi. History will recognize Messi as the better player, but he won't overshadow Ronaldo. All the greats have their place.

Aye, I remember my first football game 2 months away from my 7th birthday - in which we were promoted. Freaky.

His goal against Grimsby you mean? I was there, aged 6. I've seen it on tape too. And how it's remotely relevant to what you're saying, I don't know.

Clearly not. I wasn't born. I didn't offer any opinions, either.

Thats's as a result of the whole upsetting the apple cart thing, most of them gutless and ineffective players are still in the first team !!

No, that's what a team relying on gutless and ineffective players looks like.

Based on what? Fifa. Cabaye's a 79, Nolan a 77.

Nah, maybe in this country. On a wider scale he'll never be overshadowed by Messi, ever. What do you mean in this country? He's a better player full stop. Only those who are Brazilian or biased would disagree. The fact that you say he will never be overshadowed pretty much shows that you fall into the biased camp. Bias has nothing to do with what's there on paper, and on paper Messi hasn't achieved as much as Ronaldo, yet. Plus, you're 12 years old, how do you know who the better player is/was? How old are you then? Just to clear this up because you seem to offer an opinion on every player from the 1970s onwards. Like who?

Cabaye vs Nolan. Mismatch.

Fuck the apple cart.

Nah, maybe in this country. On a wider scale he'll never be overshadowed by Messi, ever. What do you mean in this country? He's a better player full stop. Only those who are Brazilian or biased would disagree. The fact that you say he will never be overshadowed pretty much shows that you fall into the biased camp. Bias has nothing to do with what's there on paper, and on paper Messi hasn't achieved as much as Ronaldo, yet. Plus, you're 12 years old, how do you know who the better player is/was?

I always remeber Zog's end product to be as equally as bad as Jonas when he was here. Twice the attacking player ? come off it man. I can only assume you've not watched the lad for a couple of years.

That's one gathering I won't miss.

Nah, maybe in this country. On a wider scale he'll never be overshadowed by Messi, ever.

To motivate what, fed-up season ticket holders to attack him with sticks?

So he can give away the ball and then a free-kick soon after? Enough's enough. I'd rather play with 10 men. That's just taking it to extremes. Can't believe I'm actually defending Smith here, but to suggest that you'd rather play with 10 men is just 'forum' exaggeration for effect. He is extremely limited as a player.. but seriously, he is not that bad. Yes he is. We've seen it time after time. If we'd played with 10 men from the start against Blackpool at home we'd have probably won.

He's twice the attacking player that Jonas is. As a 'footballer' there's no comparison.

Against the weaker teams yeah. You could even put in another striker like Best for those types of games and ask Ben Arfa to play on the wing. That's what I was thinking, basically. Best would score for fun with 2 wingers.

So he can give away the ball and then a free-kick soon after? Enough's enough. I'd rather play with 10 men.

Those services are worthless. He'll just deprive someone like Gosling or one of the younger lads of a place on the bench. He brings the entire squad down.

That said, at home to the likes of Fulham we'd be best off leaving him on the bench.

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Jonas is a big reason we've taken points from 5 out of the top 6. I'd happily throw him in there against the top sides.

For what reason?