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I think more people over-rate our squad. I can't see an away win anywhere although I think we'll probably get one, I just don't see an away banker. We've been historically (since Bobby) poor away from home and we didn't do very well away to the promoted teams so they aren't going to be easy away games. If we need 40 points to stay up and only get 10 points away which is probably on a par with a lot of our Premiership seasons, where's the 30 home points coming from? I can probably see us getting 24 points at best at home. There's no way we're getting 40 points.

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html Should appear here in the morning. Betting is usually suspended after 10PM.

Leeds won't.

Staying up won't mean anything to him. It's nowt short of a disgrace if we can't offer him first team football, though.

What on earth is Harper doing for that second goal?

Agree with most of that.

Good technique.

What a strike! 3-0.

Cheers for alerting me to the red, mate. I instantly put £20 on Inter at 13/8. They scored the first about 10 minutes later.

2-0.

Inter lead 1-0.

He needs a primitive version of Stephen Hawking's voice box.

What?

I wish.

Come on, man. He gets knocked off the ball like a rag doll, it's an issue of size and exertion. And you can't argue for a second that his stamina isn't lacking, he just needs to work on it. I haven't singled Guthrie out, Colo is another one who needs to adapt his physical form, as is Nolan, clearly. With Guthrie, it's a case of a very talented footballer being significantly restricted by something fairly simple to improve upon. Has there ever been a genuinely successful central midfielder in the history of the PL who couldn't impose himself physically? Doubtful.

Decent odds.

Doesn't sound like him.

Messi is the best footballer in the world with very good athleticism and strength for his size, why on earth would he need to bulk up? Guthrie is a very capable footballer who'll never hit his true potential if he can't last 90 minutes or hold someone off the ball. Something needs to change or he'll amount to very little in top level football.

This coming from someone with a 2007 Michael Owen in his avatar.

Training people for something they are not naturally built for and neglecting their strengths is asking to be raped! f***ing going on about Guthries weaknesses for months man. All this we must bulk up, you work for Holland & Barrett or something? You sound very impssive going on about hypertrophy etc but its all bollocks like Kezman asked, I answered. Kevin Nolan needs to lose weight, Coloccini and Guthrie need to gain a little, it's not rocket science. If you can't see that Danny Guthrie as a CM doesn't need to improve his physical strength/presence, you either don't go to the games or you're just attempting to initiate another daft arguement. Nobody is asking for footballing strengths to be neglected. But blatant physical weaknesses need to be worked on, which is what athletes from every other sport do, no reason for it to be omitted from football.

Aye, he's capable with the ball at his feet, but that's a requesite in Spain and Italy. He's a CB, pure and simple.

Lua Lua is another one who should be nowhere near a PL squad.

Nobody has been discussing your rumours, Pedro.

Especially seeing as we didn't retain Fitzy. I knew that was coming, thought it would be Cajun, like.

That's what makes the PL great, though, a combination of ability and athleticism. But it's certainly gone too far in the last few years, thanks in no small part to a certain couple of managers.