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Kadar in particular is a promising player but those descriptions of him and Carroll are laughable.

Gutted? Give me a break.

Shut up man Jayson, they've been saying the same about him all season.

Theyre in denial Beckford looks to be able to create much more on his own, Harewood is a tap it in man. Or a get through on goal 1v1 man at best. Beckfords a tap it in man, 1v1 man, long range super goals man, probably gonna be as good as shearer man. Far more potential and much more exciting. In denial over what?

Where's the contradiction? I think that Beckford would get 10 between now and May. I know that Harewood would achieve that figure.

Harewood is 30 actually, and is proven goalscorer in the championship. Neither will cut it at premiership level and we should be looking further than these two. What makes this debate funnier is the concensus amongst the Leeds fans that I know. Their attitude is that they have one and a half feet in the championship and for that reason Beckford isn't the answer long-term. They'd be happy to see him go.

If he came back tomorrow and started 10 games for us, how many do you think he'd score? Wager a guess at 4.

He's been poor overall and not good enough to get himself a transfer but I thought he showed some excellent touches last night.

Xisco played well last night to be fair to him.

Aye, instead lets waste what little money the chariman will release on the good old fashioned Newcastle method - a 30something+ hasbeen that will score a couple now and then but will be s***, slow and lack effort in every other department. Did I once say that Harewood was my first choice?

as long as he scpores a few though, thats ok isnt it? harewood got anihilated, but scored a few, and you want us to buy him? As opposed to Beckford, yeah I do. Missed the point again. Harewood got anihilated for being a generally poor player on the ball and not seeming to put the effort in, Beckford is exactly the same.

Can't wait to see what you of Beckford, he'll get absolutely anihilated on this board.

you base 99% of your debates on what may be man. preiciting who would or wouldnt succeed in this leage/the prem, and how many they would get. 'beckford is a 10 goal a season man in prem' for example. That's an opinion, without evidence we defer to them. In this case we have solid evidence that one player will give us what need, and no evidence whatsoever for the other.

Yes but would you pay that now to bring Harewood in on a permanent basis? As opposed to bringing in Beckford for £2M+, yes.

There's an astonishing lack of pragmatism on this board at times. Carroll should start every game apparently because of what he might be and we should sign Beckford because of what he could do. Harewood isn't ideal, but we all know that he's proven in the championship and we'll get promoted with him in the side. Let's get promoted and then start looking for suitable players for the premiership instead of following this daft dream about lower league players stepping up and becoming a morbid symbol of Newcastle united rising from the ashes.

Matty Fryatt better that Boyd. Who is we're trying to re-sign here, Shearer or Andy Cole? Move the f*** on.

Goals to minutes is what i'd prefer to go by.

Boyd is by far the better player. How many do you think he'd get in the championship?

He started 17 games did he?

Harewood has proved that he's a 1 in 2 man in this league, he's worth £1.5m.

Fryatt ahead of Boyd? He's a terrible player.

They're about the same, both are 20 goal strikers in the championship in a nutshell. Neither fit for the premiership.

He was in a brilliant England setup for 10 years, playing against the likes of Macedonia an out and out goalscorer should get 40 goals in 89 games. He's let England down when it mattered though. And now he's a very poor player with a good reputation, which is what I was originally getting at.

4th top for Man U? Aye, brilliant.

"He's" = He is, I didn't say "he was" now did I? As for being one of the best strikers England has ever had. Why has he failed badly in every tournament since 98 then? Shearer, Lineker, Ferdinand and Sheringham in my lifetime were all better players.