Ronaldo

Wahoo, commitment over ability. Always works that. Commitment as opposed to no comitment whatsoever generally does work. And Owen's hardly bursting with ability is he I beg to differ. You're exaggerating things massively out of proportion man. You can question his commitment, sure - and i have done in the past. But he's our top scorer, so it can't be that bad. Certainly not "no commitment whatsoever". You can question his ability too, but he's got a 1 in 2 record in the Premier League for us, so again, it can't be that bad. If he's fit, he needs to be in the team imo. If he's sharp and on a run of form he's absolutely vital if we stay up. I like Lovenkrands, he works hard and offers an outlet of pace as others have said, but having an instinctive goal-poacher in your side wins you football matches. I'd be tempted to put him on the left and Jonas on the right simple to accommodate a pacy quartet upfront... but then Jonas is far better on the left hand side. It'd be harsh dropping the lad, but one way or another, Owen's the captain and he's going to be in the side. Rightfully, imo. 1 in 2 record in the premier league? It's closer to 1 in 3 isn't it? correct me if i'm wrong Owen wont make an impact after coming back from injury, as HTT says it'll take him 5 games just to catch up to the pace

Wahoo, commitment over ability. Always works that. Commitment as opposed to no comitment whatsoever generally does work. And Owen's hardly bursting with ability is he

best performance since Old Trafford

we dont have a midfield, which is where games are won or lost. The quality in defence means nothing with the shite they're behind

What exactly makes people think Owen will come in and start scoring goals? Say he plays the last 10 games, he might just nick 3 goals, does that justify him being in the team ahead of Lovenkrands, who'll at least give us geniune commitment, pace and workrate does it fuck

fantastic tonight, what a guy! hope he pisses on Kinnear's doorstop when the next competent manager gives him a new 5 year contact

If Owen is fit, he will be a major help to us. Can score goals, and that's something we could always use. I hate him. If we are relying on Owen to keep us up then we will definitely be relegated. He's our top scorer at the moment and before tonight had scored about 1/3 of our league goals. I for one will be glad when he's back to be honest. He's also a want away who couldn't care less about what happens to this club as he'll be happily off in the summer. Started to be a complete passenger for a while before his injury. Obviously no longer gives a s***. I wouldn't drop Lovenkrands or Martins for him. Owen guarantees goals man. It's a shame there isn't a feasable way to incorperate the four of Jonas/Lovenkrands/Owen/Martins... we'd have a lot of pace to work with then. he certainly guarentees 1 goal in 8, if his record before injury is owt to go by And yet he's still our top scorer and has been for ages. hardly difficult when: a)he's our penalty taker b) we have one other premiership striker in the squad, who's been out for 3 months Like i said the other night ,If owen was fit we would have taken Bolton apart That's ridiculous by the way. Owen is good, but no striker would have done well vs. Bolton. We didn't have one moment of coherent attacking play throughout the entire match. We would have barely seen Owen if he played vs. Bolton. exactly, what the fuck do people think Owen is? a world beater? a great, dynamic player? fuck off, the lot of you

If Owen is fit, he will be a major help to us. Can score goals, and that's something we could always use. I hate him. If we are relying on Owen to keep us up then we will definitely be relegated. He's our top scorer at the moment and before tonight had scored about 1/3 of our league goals. I for one will be glad when he's back to be honest. He's also a want away who couldn't care less about what happens to this club as he'll be happily off in the summer. Started to be a complete passenger for a while before his injury. Obviously no longer gives a s***. I wouldn't drop Lovenkrands or Martins for him. Owen guarantees goals man. It's a shame there isn't a feasable way to incorperate the four of Jonas/Lovenkrands/Owen/Martins... we'd have a lot of pace to work with then. he certainly guarentees 1 goal in 8, if his record before injury is owt to go by And yet he's still our top scorer and has been for ages. hardly difficult when: a)he's our penalty taker b) we have one other premiership striker in the squad, who's been out for 3 months Like i said the other night ,If owen was fit we would have taken Bolton apart which is utter nonsense. It's been over 3 years since Owen has taken any defence apart

tactics are fucking woeful

If Owen is fit, he will be a major help to us. Can score goals, and that's something we could always use. I hate him. If we are relying on Owen to keep us up then we will definitely be relegated. He's our top scorer at the moment and before tonight had scored about 1/3 of our league goals. I for one will be glad when he's back to be honest. He's also a want away who couldn't care less about what happens to this club as he'll be happily off in the summer. Started to be a complete passenger for a while before his injury. Obviously no longer gives a s***. I wouldn't drop Lovenkrands or Martins for him. Owen guarantees goals man. It's a shame there isn't a feasable way to incorperate the four of Jonas/Lovenkrands/Owen/Martins... we'd have a lot of pace to work with then. he certainly guarentees 1 goal in 8, if his record before injury is owt to go by And yet he's still our top scorer and has been for ages. hardly difficult when: a)he's our penalty taker b) we have one other premiership striker in the squad, who's been out for 3 months

Taylor backing off as usual, getting the vital touch, cunt

You can almost understand it considering S.Taylor has been giving goals away all season

Shearer blames Steven Taylor aswell

Taylor's the bigger fool for not breaking his jaw if he was going to use his hands

How the fuck was smith cracking?

spot on

If Owen is fit, he will be a major help to us. Can score goals, and that's something we could always use. I hate him. If we are relying on Owen to keep us up then we will definitely be relegated. He's our top scorer at the moment and before tonight had scored about 1/3 of our league goals. I for one will be glad when he's back to be honest. He's also a want away who couldn't care less about what happens to this club as he'll be happily off in the summer. Started to be a complete passenger for a while before his injury. Obviously no longer gives a s***. I wouldn't drop Lovenkrands or Martins for him. Owen guarantees goals man. It's a shame there isn't a feasable way to incorperate the four of Jonas/Lovenkrands/Owen/Martins... we'd have a lot of pace to work with then. he certainly guarentees 1 goal in 8, if his record before injury is owt to go by

he clearly is

awful performance

the original ronaldo? it's an easy one to suggest because he was more a phenomenal indiviual than a great team player. However, post 2000 he developed a footballing brain to compensate for his slightly reduced level of pace. In his last 2 1/2 seasons at Madrid most will point to a lot of his goals as demonstrating fantastic awareness in the final third

Owen has a football brain, just not the tools that go with it to make a great player

Beardsley is the big one for me, Van Nistelrooy and Sheringham also notable

I'm far from a Taylor fan but come on, that's just wrong. Enrique failed to stop the cross, Bassong was marking nobody, Coloccini got caught in two minds, Taylor was nowhere and nobody tracked the runner from our midfield. It was s**** all round. How was Coloccini in two minds? He was the only one actually marking anybody. Mr Taylor, wandering around in the middle near nobody, why isn't he shouting for Coloccini to push up? He was caught in two minds (stick to his man or try and block off Gardner once he saw him) because there was a lack of communication back there. Which is yet another fault between them. You said Taylor was the only person at fault. I think that's nonsense. Having been a defender myself when I played football I can tell you that the one thing which used to piss me off more than anything else was players not picking anyone up. Coloccini might have had the wrong man for whatever reason but at least he was marking someone. Who was Taylor marking? From where I was it looked like he was stood by himself like a spectator without a clue who was around him. THAT is unforgiveable. while I dont believe Taylor, and only Taylor was at fault for the goal, this post is pretty hard to argue with. Far, far too many times we've conceded goals because the ball has been swept in from out wide and someone has met it from close range, with Taylor doing precisely NOTHING to help our cause, he's a liability man.

was aimed at Taylor, not you btw

He's a keeper though. And he's 25, hardly knocking on 27