Chris_R

Exactly. It's a public meeting. He can come himself for all I care. In fact, imagine the scenes.

Hardly. Even if they lose this, they're still in the playoffs, it's really early in the season and they're close to the top spots. They may not walk the league, but they're going to do pretty well in it this year. That's more a reflection of the league than them, mind.

We (or the Magpie group / Wor Flags) should decide on an acceptable alternative to "Fat cockney bastard" which is clearly damaging, and get that put on a big banner. Then everyone can see it and sing the same thing.

I don't think it's amazing at all. If Rafa is, as is believed, a man of integrity who will never walk away from a contract then any kind of clause like this is an utter irrelevance to him. Doesn't matter if there's no clause, a £6m clause, or a £1b clause. He'll stay regardless and see out the contract.

Well maybe you're right, but that's slightly irrelevant now. Assuming it is there, which it is widely believed to be from reputable sources, should Rafa see out his contact or walk away now?

Are you going to pay Ashley the widely-believed £6m for Rafa to walk? If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier? That's a stupid clause to have to work under a known wanker like Ashley I just don't go along with the widely believed view that he will walk in May. He already has said he will see about a new deal later in the season. What's there to see about unless Ashley wasn't here anymore? Are you saying he shouldn't pay the £6m because you've deemed it stupid? Or that he should walk and pay it? Or what? My question still stands in its entirety: "If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier?". Or would you see out your contract, and get paid a year's salary instead of paying £6m to leave? And as for your second bit, Rafa HAS to say he'll see about a new contract. He can't say anything else. Let's face it, there ARE things Ashley could do to make Rafa stay. It's not impossible. He could write something into Rafa's contract saying he'll have £Xm per year net spend to spend on players, that might satisfy Rafa if X was high enough and the contract watertight enough, and Ashley could do that, there's nothing stopping him. But we all know he won't, because 11 years tell us it just won't happen because he's a parasite and a cunt whose only goal is to advertise SD and leach money out of the club and into his own pockets, but Rafa has to allow him to not offer a good enough contract, to give him that opportunity to fuck up, before he walks at the end of his contract with his head held high. Rafa, for me, is playing this perfectly.

Are you going to pay Ashley the widely-believed £6m for Rafa to walk? If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier?

Nice to see it all blowing over.

Shola has quite likely taken Bishop's pound to spout shit. If that's the case, and it looks like it is the case, he's an abhorrent cunt and deserves everything which comes his way. However if he comes out and publicly retracts his statements in the light of new information, then great, we can go back to where we were. However until then he's on the shit list.

Don't rain on our parade.

I love the idea that somebody in authority, somewhere, has decided that this getting Dennis Wise, Sam Allardyce and Richard Keys to tell us we're all wrong is the best way to placate the angry Newcastle fans. It's almost as if they're trying to make things worse. Maybe Keith Bishop is actually on our side.

I've no idea. I just assumed they meant a part of the ground. But to me that's the Leazes, the Sir John Hall Stand, whatever. Is it the North Stand now? I've not been for a while I admit as I'm no longer local.

Moreso than when journalists went undercover into the warehouse to discover awful working conditions and Ashley was thrown in front of a select committee (where he performed terribly)?. Or when the company was subject to an SFO investigation? Ashley has proven thin-skinned and the 'annoyance factor' may have an impact on him, but it's not going to fundamentally alter the performance of the SD business. Yes, more than that. Because (most) investors couldn't care less if a company is ethical. They invest to make money, not because they love how the company operates. In fact most investors will love that Ashley pays his staff next to nothing and gives them no breaks etc, that just means more money for the shareholders.

Where's the north terrace? Is that supposedly part of the ground? I've been to hundreds of matches and if you asked me which part the north terrace was, I wouldn't have the slightest idea. Well, I could work out roughly where you mean from knowing which one the East Stand is, but I'm still not sure on the specifics and it might be worth clarifying it as I doubt I'm alone.

I couldn't disagree more. The whole brand is becoming toxic, tainted. It will definitely be having an effect and any serious investor will check every aspect of a company before investing in it.

That probably accounts for the immediate dip, yes, but not what's happened since. Professional investors react quickly, they don't take over a month to decide on things. Anyone with large volumes invested in SD would have been waiting for the results to come out and would have made a decision in minutes, maybe hours. Certainly not sitting here into the back end of August. What we've seen is a slow but sustained drop in price, which to me indicates that people are gradually losing confidence in the brand as the sustained pressure mounts.

Further to my share price post above, just think about this. If there's a connection between the protests and the SD share price, and we can argue that all day but as I say I believe there is, but if there is then look at the numbers. Before the protests kicked in, the SD share price was at a high of 436.10p. Now it's at 385.95 That's a drop of 50.15p per share There's 536.97 MILLION shares in issue Mike Ashley, according to an earlier post which I don't doubt but haven't checked myself, owns 61% of them This protest has therefore lowered Mike Ashley's wealth by £164m already. If that's not incentive enough for people to get on board with this, nothing is.

That's the key, empty stadium is unrealistic unfortunately so this is the best approach. Previously owning nufc was a benefit to SD with no major drawbacks. With the social media stuff it's still a benefit but currently must be an annoyance. The next step is to turn that annoyance into something more where it has a financial impact. This all kicked off around 18th July.... https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=99882.11450 And this has happened to the SD share price since, a share price which was previously going up.... Of course, maybe this is all coincidence, but I really don't think so. I am utterly convinced this is having an impact, it's the only notable thing which has happened to SD since 18th July which could explain this continued descent of the share price, unless someone would like to tell me otherwise? And Ashley will be 100% aware of the connection too. He'll wake up every single morning and the first thing he'll do is check the share prices. I believe there's a connection between the 2, but what's way more important is that he'll believe there's a connection too and he'll be fucking furious.

I still think you'll get filtered out. Even with VPN and browser tricks. Google are pretty smart. If they see suspicious activity in anyway, they err on the side of caution and don't charge the Advertiser. Even assuming you don't get filtered out, 3 clicks a day is going to be costing an Advertiser not very much. Especially in the context of all the genuine traffic a big advertiser might be getting - you'll be accounting for 0.00000001% of spend. My advice would be to not waste your time. Thanks for the advice but I'll carry on anyway. For all of the following reasons: 1) It's not just me doing it, there's many people doing it. The effect is not from what I'm doing personally, but from the sum of our parts. 2) I'm doing it at work, so it's not a waste of my time at all. I have a great employer who doesn't mind what I do provided my job is done, which it always is. And yes I have the same VPN option on my phone as at home, and I also have a work VPN which I can use on the desktop, which is our company's own and nothing to do with any major VPN provider 3) It makes me feel better.

Yep, slow and steady is the name of the game here. I'm going to look for maybe 2 or 3 advertised links per day. Per VPN connection.

Also I've just thought.... If everyone doing this - and there seems to be a lot of us - uses the same hashtag ie #IfRafaGoesWeGo, then it'll become viral at least at a local level each time SD tweet. So by tweeting, provided we hold up our end and use that hashtag when abusing him, SD are effectively publicising the IfRafaGoes movement and making the whole thing viral. Cheers guys.

Seems they're adopting a "carry on regardless" attitude, hoping people get bored. Personally doing this kind of stuff is the highlight of my working day, and as I'm doing it at work I'm actually getting paid for it. Until the "work" part of my job becomes more fun than abusing Mike Ashley, or the demands of my working day become so great that I don't have time to spend 5 minutes chucking some grief his way, I can't see why I'd even think of stopping.

My VPN has over 500 UK servers. I'm also "working from home" next Thursday.

Plenty of time and need to keep SD guessing. Will be another SD protest. Info to follow soon. Good stuff.

Me too mate, I'm finding it impossible to enjoy Rafa's last season with us because of this leech so I'm quite happy helping with the relentless tirade of abuse heading his way and against anyone who stands on his side, I won't stop, I just hope the majority are in the same boat too. I'm in this for the long haul, I've got plenty of free time and I'm both incredibly stubborn and incredibly patient.